2/4 - This should be an easy one...

[PatInTheHat]

For whatever reason I wasn't sure what the standard line was for this hand:

Party Poker
No Limit Hold'em Cash Game
$2/$4 Blinds
6 Players
LegoPoker HH Converter

<font color="black">Stack Sizes</font>
SB: $248.86
<u>Hero (BB): $510</u>
UTG: $627.55
<font color="black">MP: $371.70</font>
CO: $380.85
BTN: $398

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($6, 6 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $14</font>, 2 folds, SB calls $12, <font color="red">Hero raises to $54</font>, MP calls $40, SB folds

<font color="black">Flop:</font> T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($124, 2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $85</font>, MP calls $85

<font color="black">Turn:</font> A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($294, 2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero shoves or checks?

Villian is pretty standard 20/12.

[Phresh]

I'd check and call a shove or shove a river.

[Big_Jim]

Check with the A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] shove without it.

[PatInTheHat]

Btw id love some reasoning as to why checking or shoving is the best play as well [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Jim - Why does having the A spades change things?

[Big_Jim]

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Jim - Why does having the A spades change things?

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Not having it gives him a ton of second best hands that he can call with.

[jj12]

by a ton you mean like 10 combos, right?

[Big_Jim]

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by a ton you mean like 10 combos, right?

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Yes, and I don't think I'm exaggerating.

[breitling996]

bet like 170 and call a shove..

[shootaa]

i like Jim's input about the A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] for sure. for me i think this is more dependent on your double barrel tendancies and his view of them. if you're checking JJ here, i might check, if you're bet/re-evaluating with it and bluffing here, i would just go ahead and shove most the time, all the time without the A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

[PatInTheHat]

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Jim - Why does having the A spades change things?

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Not having it gives him a ton of second best hands that he can call with.

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Yeah but if he does have the A spades it's most likely im beat/splitting as AA/AK/AQ are probably the only hands hes calling my 3 bet with.

Just thinking about this hand more im sure it's pretty close vs this type of oppenent as I don't think hes calling 3 bets light so his range is pretty narrow. Whether I check or bet I think he shuts down with a lot of hands im beating. However against a villian that can have a wider range here I think checking is probably a better play.