i play weird

[jba]

i dunno why people think this flop is so great, I don't think so. if I'm ahead I'm dodging the deck and my redraws are tainted, and if I'm behind I'm being 3bet and who knows how many outs are good. yeah they're donks but I'm not sure I'm a huge money favorite if at all on this flop 4-way.

[Oink]

Didnt mean to imply that the flop was an easy raise. Just trying to say that in my opinion the EV difference between raising and calling is minimal.

[vmacosta]

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i dunno why people think this flop is so great, I don't think so. if I'm ahead I'm dodging the deck and my redraws are tainted, and if I'm behind I'm being 3bet and who knows how many outs are good. yeah they're donks but I'm not sure I'm a huge money favorite if at all on this flop 4-way.

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I PStoved it and got that you have 28% equity 4-way, but you have 58% equity if you get it HU with pfr. Obv that doesn't tell the whole story (since if you manage to get it HU with pfr then its likely that your equity 4-way was much greater). However I think it debunks your notion that this isn't a good flop.

It's possible my range for the pfr is too wide, I was using my own likely range:
55+,A6s+,K9s+,Q9s+,J9s+,A8o+,KTo+,QTo+,JTo

[jt1]

Seems like a good flop to me. Most of the time, the two donks clearly have proper odds to call 1 sb but not 2 so why just call?

And no you aren't a huge money favorite to win this hand.