i forgot rule #1

[Schneids]

which is...

PLAY THE RUSH

PokerStars Game #11121086974: Hold'em Limit ($100/$200) - 2007/07/25 - 00:10:43 (ET)
Table 'Justitia V' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: doughnutz ($9176 in chips)
Seat 3: ScHnibL0r ($6732 in chips)
Seat 4: papawhitt ($8374.50 in chips)
Seat 5: Minh Tai ($3900 in chips)
Seat 6: PapaWarbucks ($11416 in chips)
Minh Tai: posts small blind $50
PapaWarbucks: posts big blind $100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to PapaWarbucks [7d 7h]
doughnutz: raises $100 to $200
ScHnibL0r: raises $100 to $300
papawhitt: folds
Minh Tai: raises $100 to $400
Betting is capped
PapaWarbucks: folds
doughnutz: calls $200
PokerSnoopy has returned
ScHnibL0r: calls $100
*** FLOP *** [Qd 6c 7c]
Minh Tai: bets $100
doughnutz: calls $100
ScHnibL0r: calls $100
*** TURN *** [Qd 6c 7c] [7s]
Minh Tai: bets $200
doughnutz: raises $200 to $400
ScHnibL0r: folds
Minh Tai: raises $200 to $600
doughnutz: calls $200
*** RIVER *** [Qd 6c 7c 7s] [Kc]
Minh Tai: bets $200
doughnutz: raises $200 to $400
Minh Tai: raises $200 to $600
doughnutz: raises $200 to $800
Betting is capped
Minh Tai: calls $200
*** SHOW DOWN ***
doughnutz: shows [Kd Ks] (a full house, Kings full of Sevens)
Minh Tai: shows [6d 6h] (a full house, Sixes full of Sevens)
doughnutz collected $4398 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $4400 | Rake $2
Board [Qd 6c 7c 7s Kc]
Seat 1: doughnutz showed [Kd Ks] and won ($4398) with a full house, Kings full of Sevens
Seat 3: ScHnibL0r folded on the Turn
Seat 4: papawhitt (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Minh Tai (small blind) showed [6d 6h] and lost with a full house, Sixes full of Sevens
Seat 6: PapaWarbucks (big blind) folded before Flop

[wazz]

I thought it was 'you don't talk about fight club'

Is this fold standard for limit?

[Schneids]

I don't remember for sure but I'm pretty sure I did the math like 4 years ago and to play a hand like this for set value alone it's not profitable unless you get the dreamiest of boards and setups.

[SkeetyMcdoogle]

Schneids I think I found the dreamiest of boards and setups

[Schneids]

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I don't remember for sure but I'm pretty sure I did the math like 4 years ago and to play a hand like this for set value alone it's not profitable unless you get the dreamiest of boards and setups.

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To expand on that, putting in 2 more bets with a pocket pair, for set value, was very marginal-barely +EV in normal-aggro game conditions...so 3 bets cold is going to be -EV.

[SkeetyMcdoogle]

so schneids since its only me and you in here let me run a hypothetical situation by you

Lets say I play nl50, am a marginal loser, and take no heed to math, odds, or even logic really when I play cards

how would I do in a game like limit?

[disjunction]

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I don't remember for sure but I'm pretty sure I did the math like 4 years ago and to play a hand like this for set value alone it's not profitable unless you get the dreamiest of boards and setups.

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To expand on that, putting in 2 more bets with a pocket pair, for set value, was very marginal-barely +EV in normal-aggro game conditions...so 3 bets cold is going to be -EV.

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Putting in 3 SB with 13SB already in the pot. I think a set is 7.5 to 1 IIRC so you'll need to get 8 more SB in. Maybe this will happen, but I think the main worry, actually, is with all that raising, overpairs are seeing all 5 cards and who knows if your set will even hold.

[brandofo]

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I don't remember for sure but I'm pretty sure I did the math like 4 years ago and to play a hand like this for set value alone it's not profitable unless you get the dreamiest of boards and setups.

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To expand on that, putting in 2 more bets with a pocket pair, for set value, was very marginal-barely +EV in normal-aggro game conditions...so 3 bets cold is going to be -EV.

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What are you gonna buy with all your new Skalnsky bucks?

[Jeff_B]

just think if this was NL you would be $13,000 richer...
although thats like what 2 big bets for you?

[gamblar]

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I thought it was 'you don't talk about fight club'



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No, its the one about keeping the Gremlins out of the daylight...