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Old 03-09-2007, 07:17 AM
phantom_lord phantom_lord is offline
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Default 2 stars deeeeeepstacked hands.

60 paid, 100ish left, avg stack 20k

I've a tight image, stolen pots with thrash but have had the goods in showdowns.

the villain in this hand has raised a couple of hands recently, just took down the last hand with a c-bet, so I think it's time to 3bet him, is this awful to do oop?

hohum, what should I do on the flop?


(small stack is explained by losing a 11k race with a shortie)



PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (9 handed) internettexasholdem.com

CO (t16421)
Button (t20163)
phantom_lord (t13245)
BB (t21202)
UTG (t25315)
UTG+1 (t28817)
MP1 (t10110)
MP2 (t11020)
MP3 (t13815)

Preflop: phantom_lord is SB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to t1000</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">phantom_lord raises to t4000</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls t3000.

Flop: (t8175) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t8175



pot control?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) internettexasholdem.com

UTG+1 (t5295)
MP1 (t13660)
MP2 (t4655)
MP3 (t4375)
CO (t3805)
phantom_lord (t4780)
SB (t4270)
BB (t10915)
UTG (t13545)

Preflop: phantom_lord is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls t30, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP3 calls t30, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">phantom_lord raises to t120</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG+1 calls t90, MP3 calls t90.

Flop: (t405) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets t180</font>, phantom_lord calls t180, UTG+1 calls t180.

Turn: (t945) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>

Final Pot: t945

should I check behind?
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Old 03-09-2007, 07:23 AM
LuckyLloyd LuckyLloyd is offline
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Default Re: 2 stars deeeeeepstacked hands.

lol. Weren't happy with the responses you received elsewhere eh??

Again: Shove 1 and inflate the pot in hand two.
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Old 03-09-2007, 07:30 AM
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Default Re: 2 stars deeeeeepstacked hands.

Hand 1, i think your reraise pre is to big. Go to like 3000-3500. On this flop you really only have one choice, shove. You can't really check shove because he'll take a free card way to often, and part of his range here is AQ/AK.

Hand 2, no, don't check bethind, bet strong.
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Old 03-09-2007, 07:38 AM
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Default Re: 2 stars deeeeeepstacked hands.

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lol. Weren't happy with the responses you received elsewhere eh??

Again: Shove 1 and inflate the pot in hand two.

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lack of responses!
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Old 03-09-2007, 06:32 PM
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Default Re: 2 stars deeeeeepstacked hands.

so everyone thinks it's a defo bet in the 2nd hand?

and hand 1 is fine?
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Old 03-09-2007, 06:58 PM
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Default Re: 2 stars deeeeeepstacked hands.

these arent deep at all.

shove flop hand 1.

bet turn hand 2.

1 is debatable... check/calling a flop shove/ check/shoving the flop is an option.

hand 2 isnt close at all.
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Old 03-10-2007, 01:19 AM
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Default Re: 2 stars deeeeeepstacked hands.

Deep? Deep? Deep??????
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Old 03-10-2007, 08:46 AM
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Default Re: 2 stars deeeeeepstacked hands.

I assume this is from a low buyin deep stack tournament.

Hand 1. I excercize pot control by folding preflop.

Hand 2. With 2 limpers this deep at this buyin, I would probably raise to 180. I think the raise to 120 is pretty bad, particularly with AQo rather than 99 or something. I also don't mind just limping behind preflop, as AQo doesn't play well with very deep money.

On the turn, the pot is multiway, and it is an action board, so kind of a tricky situation with top 2 pair. However, a lot of sets would have raised preflop. You also may get action from lower 2-pairs or combination draws.
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Old 03-10-2007, 08:55 AM
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Default Re: 2 stars deeeeeepstacked hands.

checking on hand 2 is criminal.

o and shove hand 1.
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