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#11
11-29-2007, 12:55 AM
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Re: 16: I thought this was a fairly standard push
Even if utg is shoving 100%, AQo is -0.5%. His call is horrible as OP probably isn't shoving worse than like top 45-50 ish... Or maybe a range with less K/Q rags and more mid suited connectors, making it lower than that.
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#12
11-29-2007, 06:52 AM
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Re: 16: I thought this was a fairly standard push
Even if bb had brains, button and sb would call this way too often methinks.
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#13
11-29-2007, 07:24 AM
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Re: 16: I thought this was a fairly standard push
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BE w/ BB at 5%, SB @ 12% and BTN at 10%, you don't think you get that holy? All players should be calling significantly tighter based on pure ICM than those above ranges, I think they're pretty generous. [/ QUOTE ] They call a fair bit wider than that. They are like, ICM, isn't that like a nuclear missile?
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#14
11-29-2007, 07:29 AM
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Re: 16: I thought this was a fairly standard push
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Even if utg is shoving 100%, AQo is -0.5%. His call is horrible as OP probably isn't shoving worse than like top 45-50 ish... Or maybe a range with less K/Q rags and more mid suited connectors, making it lower than that. [/ QUOTE ] Vers, I love your posts, and I think you know your stuff, but blimey, you give too much credit to your opponents. They are not complete idiots but very very few players will fold AQ in this spot. Please note though that you really only see me posting to disagree with you, because I so often feel you nailed it.
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#15
11-29-2007, 07:38 AM
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Re: 16: I thought this was a fairly standard push
"very very few" is an obvious exaggeration, there are usually a couple of players at the start of each 16 that would fold AQ here.
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#16
11-29-2007, 07:45 AM
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Re: 16: I thought this was a fairly standard push
I don't care about ICM or what not. AQ vs a Button shove here in the BB is gold to me. Seriously, would anyone shove AA, KK, QQ here in the $16s? Why on earth should anyone fold when they are at least a flip, probably 60:40 and maybe even 2:1 vs Ax or Qx? This is for a shot at 1st, would be stupid to fold IMO.
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#17
11-29-2007, 08:07 AM
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Re: 16: I thought this was a fairly standard push
AQ is a retarded call, as shown above. It's a losing call even if Hero shoves any two cards.
And of course people would shove QQ+.
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#19
11-29-2007, 08:20 AM
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Re: 16: I thought this was a fairly standard push
Uhm...the reason why good players pushbot well is not because they're fast with SNGWiz during the tournies.
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#20
11-29-2007, 08:24 AM
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Re: 16: I thought this was a fairly standard push
I guess its not OP case though? "usually" means before becoming real good at it.
Of-course after analyzing 2k+ hands on bubble you not only think, but know what is good or bad.
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