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Old 08-23-2007, 05:02 AM
cooker3 cooker3 is offline
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Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $83.05
BB: $72.60
UTG: $11.05
MP: $65.55
hero (CO): $111.30
BTN: $51.00

Reads: <font color="blue">Villain is 56/21/3.2 over 100 hands</font>

Preflop: hero is dealt K K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $2.00</font>, <font color="red">hero raises to $6.00</font>, BTN folds, SB calls $5.75, BB calls $5.50, MP calls $4.00

Flop: ($24) 3 J 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets all-in for $77.05</font>, 2 folds

Ok, that was unexpected. So what range do you give him
and do you call?
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Old 08-23-2007, 05:11 AM
Hail Eris Hail Eris is offline
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Fist pump call if it was HU. I'm sure he shows up here with a flush draw or something retarded often enough that calling is mandatory.
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Old 08-23-2007, 05:13 AM
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You've got QQ, AJ, FD beat, and you lose to 33 JJ 88 and a hidden AA. I'd probably lean towards calling this.
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Old 08-23-2007, 05:14 AM
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Call
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Old 08-23-2007, 05:18 AM
Dave Coulier Dave Coulier is offline
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Ive seen plays like this every now and then and usually it was an overpair they slowplayed preflop. If thats the case you're losing to one hand and beating the other. He may expect you have a big pair after 3 betting preflop and expects you not to be able to let it go while he's staring at his AA and seeing $ signs in his head. Of course thats not always going to be the case. What type of reads do you have on him after 100 hands?

If you weren't deep stacked I would snap call this almost every time depending on the player, but since you are I would probably fold and make a note of his unusual play.

Haha I feel like such an outcast/nit since everyone else is saying call [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]. Hopefully OP will post results after a few more people chime in.
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Old 08-23-2007, 05:26 AM
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He could have A high no draw. Call ffs.
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Old 08-23-2007, 05:40 AM
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snap call
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Old 08-23-2007, 06:01 AM
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I call this given his huge VPIP and big agression I think we will see draws and weaker hands here often enough to make a call +EV
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Old 08-23-2007, 06:28 AM
mackthefork mackthefork is offline
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I think I call this guy, I can't see many wanting to play aces 4 handed, the more I look at it, the more it looks like AJ, or QQ, possible he has an FD, maybe A8c or something but if he does you will occassionally get lucky when he doesn't hit. I'd say that he will have a set less otfen because if he did he'd want paying on it surely.

Mack
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Old 08-23-2007, 08:36 AM
bob_sacamano bob_sacamano is offline
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Some curiosity, is worth to call a 1 1/2 BI on that spot? It happens against me sometimes and I usually use reads to play. But mathematicly, should we call?

(I would on the given hand due to villians aggression)
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