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Old 03-15-2006, 12:26 PM
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Didn't want to hijack Andy's thread on pre-school in California, but it got me thinking about a radio interview I heard a few weeks ago (it could have even been months...my life is so f---ed up right now who knows) on Franken's show. The guest was a high ranking member of the Federal Reserve Bank in Minneapolis. He was commissioned to study the costs of early childhood development programs and found that a program much richer (and more expensive) than the one we currently have will actually yield a positive public return in the form of decreased welfare payments, decrease in crime, etc. The program would be expensive to implement at the front end but the long-term benefits, he posited, were enourmously positive. He suggests in his study that for every $1 invested in the program, the public would see a $7+ return on that investment (again, in the long-term.)

The program (as memory serves) starts pre-natal and includes education for the parents.

Just thought this would be a little food for thought for everyone on this fine Wednesday morning.

Link to the study (or at least the first one I could find using google)
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Old 03-15-2006, 12:32 PM
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Nooooooooooooo!!!! Let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps. Not allowing below minimum wage child labor jobs is actually harmful to the children.
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Old 03-15-2006, 12:59 PM
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Way to cite an ultra liberal think-tank like the Federal Reserve.
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There is a group of wealthy elites who would rather not invest in our children, but simply use them as a future source of cheap labor. This group wants to turn America into a third world country.

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Frankly, I am shocked that the "free market" won't invest in our children. Maybe you could buy a child before they are born and invest in them. When they are 15 you could get them as a slave and if you've invested well, the slave could be a doctor or investment banker.
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Old 03-15-2006, 04:05 PM
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Very interesting, but can you link to the actual study though? The .pdf is a summary, and doesn't explain exactly what the procedures and sampling measures were.
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Old 03-15-2006, 04:06 PM
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Frankly, I am shocked that the "free market" won't invest in our children.

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So if you were a parent, you wouldn't try to get get your kid a good education?
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Old 03-15-2006, 04:10 PM
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Most parents where I live are more concerned about themselves.
http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/42/4263624.html
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Old 03-15-2006, 04:12 PM
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Most parents where I live are more concerned about themselves.
http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/42/4263624.html

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lol, I used to live there!

What a shithole.
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Old 03-15-2006, 08:36 PM
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Very interesting, but can you link to the actual study though? The .pdf is a summary, and doesn't explain exactly what the procedures and sampling measures were.

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No.

If you're that interested, you'll spend the same amount of time it would take me to look for it.
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Old 03-15-2006, 10:48 PM
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Very interesting, but can you link to the actual study though? The .pdf is a summary, and doesn't explain exactly what the procedures and sampling measures were.

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No.

If you're that interested, you'll spend the same amount of time it would take me to look for it.

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So let me get this straight.

You found a study that you had enough interest in to OP, then expressed a lack of interest in knowing how the study actually worked.

Good job.
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Old 03-16-2006, 12:49 AM
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You found a study that you had enough interest in to OP, then expressed a lack of interest in knowing how the study actually worked

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No, I expressed a lack of interest in doing work for you that you could (as easily as I could) do for yourself. You are the one who has expressed direct interest in the methodology of the study, yet are too lazy to look for it yourself.

Stop being such an ass. If you are particularly interested in the methodology, look it up. You've already spent more time asking someone else to do it for you than a competent researcher would take to find it themselves.
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