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Old 09-26-2007, 05:52 PM
Bluegrassplayer Bluegrassplayer is offline
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Default 8/9s great flop great turn horrible river

$1/$2 BB is a very LAG player. The reason he has all his chips is that he caught a 3 outer on the river for broadway cracking a set of kings.

SB: $110
BB: $600
UTG: $245
CO: $200
BTN (hero): $375

Preflop: Hero is dealt: 8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="red"> UTG bets $8 </font>, <font color="red"> CO calls </font>, <font color="red"> Hero calls </font>, <font color="red"> SB calls </font>, <font color="red"> BB calls </font>

Flop: ($40) 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Table checks to you, <font color="red"> Hero bets $25 </font>,SB folds, <font color="red"> BB calls </font>, UTG folds, CO folds
Turn: ($90) K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="red"> BB bets $30 </font>, <font color="red"> Hero raises to $90 </font>, <font color="red"> BB calls </font>
River:($270) A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
BB checks

Hero does what? Just accept that this hand is almost definitely lost or do I try to push him out and hope he was chasing something?

Are there any bets anywhere where I could have done this better?
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Old 09-26-2007, 06:00 PM
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Default Re: 8/9s great flop great turn horrible river

The only thing you beat now is JT or 76, may as well check, he's not really folding anything he got to the river with.
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Old 09-26-2007, 06:03 PM
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Default Re: 8/9s great flop great turn horrible river

If you hope he was chasing something, there is no point in betting since you have showdown value. This seems like an easy river check.

Does anyone like a larger flop bet and a turn raise - I certainly do.
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Old 09-26-2007, 06:04 PM
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Default Re: 8/9s great flop great turn horrible river

Check back river here. Maybe raise more on turn. WHat convertor is this?
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Old 09-26-2007, 06:06 PM
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Default Re: 8/9s great flop great turn horrible river

There is no value in betting. If villian was chasing and you check behind, you win.
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Old 09-26-2007, 06:07 PM
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Default Re: 8/9s great flop great turn horrible river

I bet at least 30 on the flop
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Old 09-26-2007, 06:15 PM
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Default Re: 8/9s great flop great turn horrible river

Thanks for the responses. I agree now that 5 handed the flop bet was too much of a suck bet. How much should I have raised on the turn though? I thought that anything he was folding for 90-120 dollars he would fold for 60 more too. If he didn't fold and I bet that much I would have probably found myself all in. Should I have just pushed on the turn?
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Old 09-26-2007, 06:16 PM
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Default Re: 8/9s great flop great turn horrible river

34ish on flop, and a bigger raise on turn.. shoving is too much of an overbet though when you're that deep.
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Old 09-26-2007, 06:19 PM
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Default Re: 8/9s great flop great turn horrible river

pretty much his entire range here is hands that wont fold, or hands that you beat
aka, Ax (or 88/99 although those are unlikely)
or JT or 76

what else would he have here?


just check
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Old 09-26-2007, 06:21 PM
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Default Re: 8/9s great flop great turn horrible river

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try to push him out and hope he was chasing something?

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if he was chasing something then you have the best hand now most of the time, so betting accomplishes nothing, it folds worse hands, but better hands call
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