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Old 08-29-2007, 01:35 AM
The_Black_Mamba The_Black_Mamba is offline
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Default 25NL 45s from BB, is turn push good ?

no read on opponent

Poker Room skin
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.15/$0.25
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $25.65
UTG+1: $20.90
CO: $25.35
Button: $26.85
SB: $24.75
Hero: $22.95

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $1.5</font>, 4 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($3.15, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG bets $2</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $6</font>, UTG calls.

Turn: 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($15.15, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero is all-in $15.45</font>, UTG calls.


Results:
Final pot: $46.05


after party I thought I could be more aggressive on flop( and bet more on flop) , and not on turn
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Old 08-29-2007, 01:37 AM
Gospy Gospy is offline
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Default Re: 25NL 45s from BB, is turn push good ?

I'd probably just fold this preflop. As played I don't know if I like the flop reraise, I'd try to keep this pot smaller.
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Old 08-29-2007, 01:46 AM
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Default Re: 25NL 45s from BB, is turn push good ?

Why keep the pot smaller? I think the flop raise is pretty good. It gives him a chance to threebet you with AA-TT, which even if you called it to draw, you would still know that you didn't have a lot of fold equity. As played, I like the turn push. Against a range of AA-TT, AKs-AJs and AKo-AQo, you are a 60% favorite.
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Old 08-29-2007, 01:59 AM
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Default Re: 25NL 45s from BB, is turn push good ?

this is spewy. Like AJMargarine type spew.
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Old 08-29-2007, 02:13 AM
Bill Smith Bill Smith is offline
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Default Re: 25NL 45s from BB, is turn push good ?

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this is spewy. Like AJMargarine type spew.

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NH sir.

OP: I don't think this call is profitable pf unless you know you can outplay him, but w/e. I don't mind how you played the hand, but I'd rather have a read that he's capable of laying down a decent pair. Does anyone think Hero has any FE once vil. calls flop?
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Old 08-29-2007, 03:39 AM
PinkMartini PinkMartini is offline
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Default Re: 25NL 45s from BB, is turn push good ?

No, I think he has close to 0 FE once villain calls the flop raise.

Villain raised UTG, and when that happens I'm usually not playing anything except TT+, AQs+, AKo, and that's with a reraise.
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Old 08-29-2007, 04:52 AM
mvdgaag mvdgaag is offline
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Default Re: 25NL 45s from BB, is turn push good ?

Preflop is marginal, but ok...
Flop is ok, you've got 13 outs to beat one pair higher than yours of which 8 make a straight and a little FE. I like to call and see how it develops, no reason to build a huge pot out of this. We have to discount some outs and are likely not getting the best of it for the money put in and since he donked I guess we don't have too much FE.

Turn is spew, you didn't fill up. If villain was calling the flop he might fold some worse hands, but he will definately call with a lot of better hands.

He donks, either hoping you have AK and lay it down or hoping you have an overpair and he can beat that or as a semibluff. Because he called your raise you are likely in very bad shape at the turn: c/f
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Old 08-29-2007, 05:35 AM
EvanJC EvanJC is offline
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Default Re: 25NL 45s from BB, is turn push good ?

i don't like preflop and i don't like the flop c/r.
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Old 08-29-2007, 07:03 AM
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Default Re: 25NL 45s from BB, is turn push good ?

I like raising the flop here to get a free card on the turn.
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Old 08-29-2007, 09:26 AM
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Default Re: 25NL 45s from BB, is turn push good ?

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I like raising the flop here to get a free card on the turn.

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He's out of position, he can't raise for a free card.
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