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Old 07-30-2007, 02:54 PM
baronzeus baronzeus is offline
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Default Re: PokerTracker: The Next Generation (NEW SOFTWARE DISCUSSION)

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I think the problem is that for hands where there's a really, really baby stack (like < 1 BB), who goes AI and wins the main pot, it's basically negligible. The hand, your stats, everything could be treated the same as if the dude hadn't been there. But instead of writing complex rules like, size of stack needs to be x BB to be considered a player, or in case of split, do this, in case of AI, do this, etc etc, it's so much easier to just have a set defined rule like, if you win money, it's a win, if you lose money, it's a loss.

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what? i dont want any complex rules. the amount of times you split a pot is far far more than the amount of times you are up against someone with a .2BB stack IMO
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Old 07-30-2007, 03:45 PM
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Default Re: PokerTracker: The Next Generation (NEW SOFTWARE DISCUSSION)

All of these situations are basically neglible in the grand scheme of your stats. That is why I prefer to stick with the simple rule that PT currently uses. Won money, won hand. Lose money, lost hand.
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Old 07-30-2007, 04:27 PM
baronzeus baronzeus is offline
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All of these situations are basically neglible in the grand scheme of your stats. That is why I prefer to stick with the simple rule that PT currently uses. Won money, won hand. Lose money, lost hand.

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the precise problem is that in the short run you may have many split pots making it difficult to analyze your play for that session. also, in the long run there are more split pot "Won Pots" than split pot "lost pots".

i understand if it's too much work.
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Old 07-30-2007, 07:26 PM
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Default Re: PokerTracker: The Next Generation (NEW SOFTWARE DISCUSSION)

If you guys will be supporting pot limit omaha 8 or stud 8 then obviously split pot results are very important. You might as well use it for holdem if it's going to written anyway. This upgrade will cover omaha I hope?
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Old 07-31-2007, 04:16 AM
xxThe_Lebowskixx xxThe_Lebowskixx is offline
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Default Re: PokerTracker: The Next Generation (NEW SOFTWARE DISCUSSION)

Please make sure that you can do the following:

In a 6 handed game, how often does PlayerX 3 bet in the BB when the CO open raises.

In a 5 handed game, how often does PlayerX 3 bet in the Button when the CO open raises.

In a 6 handed game, how often does PlayerX 3 bet in the BB when the Button raised and the SB Called.

How often does PlayerX 4 bet from the Button after a Blind 3 bets?
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Old 07-31-2007, 12:43 PM
Bill Haywood Bill Haywood is offline
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Default Re: PokerTracker: The Next Generation (NEW SOFTWARE DISCUSSION)

Nice: the ability to open and close a database in one step, from one window. You check one to open, uncheck to close. Right now, ya gotta first close one, then go back into the menu to reopen another.
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Old 07-31-2007, 01:36 PM
APerfect10 APerfect10 is offline
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Default Re: PokerTracker: The Next Generation (NEW SOFTWARE DISCUSSION)

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Please make sure that you can do the following:

In a 6 handed game, how often does PlayerX 3 bet in the BB when the CO open raises.

In a 5 handed game, how often does PlayerX 3 bet in the Button when the CO open raises.

In a 6 handed game, how often does PlayerX 3 bet in the BB when the Button raised and the SB Called.

How often does PlayerX 4 bet from the Button after a Blind 3 bets?

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I'm not sure if this is something the filters will be able to hand or not. Worst case, you'll be able to create your own custom tab with the queries for these stats...
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Old 07-31-2007, 02:23 PM
baronzeus baronzeus is offline
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Default Re: PokerTracker: The Next Generation (NEW SOFTWARE DISCUSSION)

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All of these situations are basically neglible in the grand scheme of your stats. That is why I prefer to stick with the simple rule that PT currently uses. Won money, won hand. Lose money, lost hand.

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alright, well thanks for asking for opinions when you already had your mind made up.
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Old 07-31-2007, 03:47 PM
Duck Rabbit Duck Rabbit is offline
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Default Re: PokerTracker: The Next Generation (NEW SOFTWARE DISCUSSION)

Don't have two seperate windows for tourneys and cash. Just have some type of filter or something that will allow you see the results from cash, tourney, or both combined. It is easier to keep tabs on how much you are up/down for those who play both.
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Old 07-31-2007, 05:10 PM
Hoopster81 Hoopster81 is offline
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Default Re: PokerTracker: The Next Generation (NEW SOFTWARE DISCUSSION)

I haven't read this whole thread, so sorry if this idea has been pitched already.

What I would like to have is the option for PAHUD to show someone's cumulative table stats (exactly the way it does now) but also be able to show seat specific stats.

For example, Villain open-raises on button. Assume we have 1000 hands w/ Villain, and he is running at 30/15/2. However, he plays 45/35/3 from the button. I would like to be able to see this information and be able to toggle between overall/seat specific stats easily.
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