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Old 10-03-2007, 04:02 AM
AcesUp2121 AcesUp2121 is offline
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Default Play down the stretch of the Stars $50k with me (Long)

I've started to get seriously into MTTs after playing strictly cash games for quite some time. I took a disappointing 11th in tonight's $50k on Stars, not to mention an 11th last night in FT's 50/50. As a result I saved any trouble hands I encountered tonight down the stretch and would greatly appreciate any and all feedback. I feel I still have alot to improve at and there's alot I don't know. On to the hands:

Hand 1: Is this a resteal often enough where I should be calling this?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t5000 (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Hero (t114669)
Button (t40585)
SB (t185240)
BB (t75054)
UTG (t97740)
MP1 (t75334)
MP2 (t129380)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J, A.
3 folds, Hero raises to t15500, 2 folds, BB raises to t75054, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t33500


Hand 2: Standard call?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t5000 (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

Hero (t97669)
UTG (t49585)
MP1 (t202740)
MP2 (t91554)
CO (t88240)
Button (t65834)
SB (t122380)

Preflop: Hero is BB with , .
5 folds, SB raises to t121880, Hero calls t92169 (All-In).

Hand 3: Should I be calling this or even pushing myself or do I have too many people behind me to act?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t6000 (9 handed) internettexasholdem.com

MP1 (t93831)
MP2 (t85349)
Hero (t194238)
CO (t130445)
Button (t98764)
SB (t172667)
BB (t165914)
UTG (t243508)
UTG+1 (t23611)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with
6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to t23011, Hero folds.

Hand 4: Should this be a fold pre? Given the way it played out is the cbet standard?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t6000 (8 handed) internettexasholdem.com

SB (t71031)
BB (t68549)
Hero (t177438)
UTG+1 (t77764)
MP1 (t325912)
MP2 (t137503)
CO (t292108)
Button (t58022)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with
2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Hero raises to t15000, 3 folds, CO calls t15000, 3 folds.

Flop: (t34200) K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
(2 players)
Hero bets t28400, CO folds.

Final Pot: t62600

Hand 5: Standard?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t6000 (7 handed) internettexasholdem.com

CO (t66831)
Button (t58349)
Hero (t199038)
BB (t76564)
UTG (t324712)
MP1 (t136303)
MP2 (t346530)

Preflop: Hero is SB with
J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
5 folds, Hero raises to t198438

Hand 6: If UTG folds I'm shoving this myself. Does his raise change anything?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t8000 (7 handed) internettexasholdem.com

BB (t129462)
UTG (t43349)
Hero (t90043)
MP2 (t162328)
CO (t330912)
Button (t129903)
SB (t322330)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with
Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG raises to t24000, Hero folds.

Hand 7: Standard?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t8000 (6 handed) internettexasholdem.com

CO (t115062)
Hero (t75643)
SB (t212077)
BB (t345312)
UTG (t127503)
MP (t332730)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
3 folds, Hero moves allin.

Hand 8: Standard raise or open shove?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t8000 (6 handed) internettexasholdem.com

UTG (t113462)
Hero (t90843)
CO (t206477)
Button (t331712)
SB (t134703)
BB (t331130)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
1 fold, Hero moves allin.

Hand 9: Raise his limp? Bet the flop?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t8000 (6 handed) internettexasholdem.com

SB (t87062)
Hero (t146843)
UTG (t184877)
MP (t402112)
CO (t177903)
Button (t209530)

Preflop: Hero is BB with
3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
i]4 folds[/i], SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (t16000) J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
(2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: (t16000)
9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
(2 players)
SB bets t8000, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t24000

Hand 10: Shove pre?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t10000 (8 handed) internettexasholdem.com

UTG+1 (t145662)
MP1 (t49666)
Hero (t192852)
CO (t30579)
Button (t438712)
SB (t222539)
BB (t350937)
UTG (t227945)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with
J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG raises to t26000, 2 folds, Hero calls t26000, 4 folds.

Flop: (t59000) 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG bets t30000, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t89000

Hand 11: Do I need to be shoving this?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t10000 (6 handed) internettexasholdem.com

BB (t143662)
Hero (t164852)
MP (t389046)
CO (t167873)
Button (t333937)
SB (t459522)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Hero folds.

Hand 12: Standard?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t12000 (6 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Hero (t122852)
SB (t383288)
BB (t359846)
UTG (t241673)
MP (t265475)
CO (t473122)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
3 folds, Hero raises to t121652
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Old 10-03-2007, 05:15 AM
Mr.WeakTight Mr.WeakTight is offline
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Default Re: Play down the stretch of the Stars $50k with me (Long)

1 - w/o reads = fold.
2 - standard.
3 - fold. don't push.
4 - fold pre. good c bet.
5- standard.
6 - no, b/c of your low M, I'd still push.

7 & 8 - standard shoves.

9 - somewhat read dependent. will he defend? this is the most borderline hand you've posted.

10 - shove pf.

11 - no, don't push.

12 - standard.
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Old 10-03-2007, 09:14 AM
Pokerfarian Pokerfarian is offline
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Default Re: Play down the stretch of the Stars $50k with me (Long)

Hand 1 - Call. Those stack sizes are pretty good for him to resteal, & even if he's never "restealing" his range versus a CO open should be weak enough for AJ to have the required equity (you need to win <40%).
Hand 2 - His overshove is weird & probably fairly strong but AT is a call I think.
Hand 3 & 6 Are both close & I like your decision...you'd be happy to get it in against the raiser but 4/5 people behind you tips the scales I think.
Hand 4 - Fold preflop is probably best, as played cbet is fine.
Hand 5 - Stack sizes are fairly borderline as to whether you can open push, I don't mind the shove if there are decent antes.
Hand 7 - Fine
Hand 8 - A standard raise would be standard there but with antes shoving is fine.
Hand 9 - Read dependant & close on both decisions, readless I lean towards checking preflop because stack sizes aren't great for raising & are good for him to limp/shove & I lean towards betting flop because I'm overagressive.
Hand 10 - I kind've like the way you played it, I'm shoving with <~150K chips
Hand 11 - Too many chips to openshove, fold is fine
Hand 12 - Fine
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Old 10-03-2007, 09:32 AM
registrar registrar is offline
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Default Re: Play down the stretch of the Stars $50k with me (Long)

#1. I generally raise ~2.5x blinds on Stars as soon as the antes kick in. As played, it depends on reads, but if I raise here, I'm not intending to fold to a shove from either short-stack behind.

#2 I would. AT is probably at the bottom of my calling range for a 20x open shove from the SB. Depends on reads though.

#3 Messy. You're ahead of UTG's range but you can't call/fold and iso-ing and then either calling or folding or getting called is going to blow. Fold>raise>>>>>call IMO.

#4 If you're raising this pf, then you have to c-bet to make it profitable. I would often open-fold if the table is stationy.

#5 I think so. You don't want to encourage a resteal.

#6 That's really tough. His shoving range should be very wide here and I'd reshove if he had shoved. In fact, I think a shove is good unless you have a read that they guy would only do this with QQ+, AK

#7 Yeah
#8 If we're ITM, I probably raise/call. I want to take the most +cEV line ITM with this stack. Shove any flop if you get flatted.

#9 Very read-related.

#10 If I don't shove pre, then I call the flop bet.

#11 Not me but it's probably very close.

#12 Yeah.

Your late MTT game appears to be in good shape.
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Old 10-03-2007, 10:24 AM
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Default Re: Play down the stretch of the Stars $50k with me (Long)

There is nothing here that is glaringly wrong, I probably play all the hands the same way. On #11, I agree with registrar, I think you need to peel one off after the flop and hope that villain slows down. Icky spot and one I struggle with, but you are too deep to be Pushing against a UTG raise unless, of course, you have a read on UTG.

I also open fold 22.

The ATo hand is close and I may need a read on villain to make this call.

Probably the most interesting hand here is Hand 6, but I think UTG's raise to 24000 (as opposed to his entire stack) is telling. I fold it.

Barry
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