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Old 07-15-2007, 07:31 PM
Pudge714 Pudge714 is offline
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Default FTP $535 Fold The Nut Straight

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $30/$60
9 players
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Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
4 folds, MP3 calls, 2 folds, SB calls, Hero checks.

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($180, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $100</font>, Hero calls, MP3 calls.

Turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($480, 3 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $300</font>, MP3 folds, SB calls.

River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($1080, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $780</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $2520</font>, Hero ?
Uncalled bets: $1740 returned to SB.

Results:
Final pot: $2640
I have like 6k and villain has a similar stack
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Old 07-15-2007, 07:35 PM
Kevin8423 Kevin8423 is offline
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Default Re: FTP $535 Fold The Nut Straight

How many chips do you have left after your river bet?

Would checking the river be bad? Seems like if you are folding to a raise you might as well just check/call, I think the chips you lose when you bet are worth too much to jusitify betting for value against the few worse hands that will call.

Edit: Is this a STT or ring!? The title and post don't seem to match.
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Old 07-15-2007, 07:39 PM
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Default Re: FTP $535 Fold The Nut Straight

Mods move to HSMTT please.
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Old 07-15-2007, 07:49 PM
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Default Re: FTP $535 Fold The Nut Straight

Pudge, the way he played the hand seems very odd for either spades (though A7s is possible, I suppose), a set, or two pair, no? No line really makes sense...does he really c/c the turn on this board with those hands? A7s is the only thing that makes a modicum of sense. I'm feeling 9T, and call.
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Old 07-15-2007, 08:27 PM
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Default Re: FTP $535 Fold The Nut Straight

Call.

He has T9. Or busted draw obviously.

The only other hands that make sense with the 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] out is something like T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] or maybe 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].

Full house is incredibly unlikely with him c/c'ing that drawtastic turn unless he is an incredible super nit and decided to put you on exactly QT after your flop call and c/c 97.
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Old 07-15-2007, 08:40 PM
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Default Re: FTP $535 Fold The Nut Straight

k9? 79? j9?

why would he Craise 910 here?
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Old 07-15-2007, 08:43 PM
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Default Re: FTP $535 Fold The Nut Straight

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k9? 79? j9?

why would he Craise 910 here?

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WTF would he check/call turn with K9/J9/97?

And the reason he'd c/r river is because he rivered trips and [censored] sucks at poker.

OR 100X MORE LIKELY HE DOESN'T HAVE A HAND WITH SHOWDOWN VALUE.
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Old 07-15-2007, 08:46 PM
Heir_Aparent Heir_Aparent is offline
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Default Re: FTP $535 Fold The Nut Straight

Also, why would u have to be a super nit to check 79 there? it would be borderline dumb to bet, really. ppl arent necessary 'nits' in these tournies but two pair here certainly isnt the nuts and they dont value bet here with it often.
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Old 07-15-2007, 08:49 PM
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Also, why would u have to be a super nit to check 79 there? it would be borderline dumb to bet, really. ppl arent necessary 'nits' in these tournies but two pair here certainly isnt the nuts and they dont value bet here with it often.

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It's a limped pot in LP with a board hitting every single draw out there. Two pair is an extremely strong hand.

Based on your posts in this thread and the thread you started it is very clear that unless you are willing to take shots with negative equity in order to learn how to play MTTs well you would be better off learning at lower stakes.
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Old 07-15-2007, 08:49 PM
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Default Re: FTP $535 Fold The Nut Straight

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[ QUOTE ]
k9? 79? j9?

why would he Craise 910 here?

[/ QUOTE ]

WTF would he check/call turn with K9/J9/97?

And the reason he'd c/r river is because he rivered trips and [censored] sucks at poker.

OR 100X MORE LIKELY HE DOESN'T HAVE A HAND WITH SHOWDOWN VALUE.

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read post below, and relax. most people in the 500's dont 'suck at poker'. at these stakes, ive seen people check two pair there all the time with the blinds thise low. your basically putting him on an exact hand and saying call, using that as your full justification. imo its far more likely he has a boat/flush here than 910, the only close to reasonable hand he makes it here with, besides a total bluff, that check raises river.
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