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Old 10-01-2007, 04:11 PM
lexudin lexudin is offline
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Default TT on aggro

MP is unknown, just sat down 5 hands ago, button is kinda idiot on tilt, raising last 7-8 hands PF, & raising constantly postflop.


My question is mainly about flop play in such situation....do we take advantage of idiots aggresivness and cap, call or just fold?


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Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button caps</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (13.46 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets<font color="#CC3333">, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, Hero ???
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Old 10-01-2007, 04:14 PM
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Default Re: TT on aggro

I fold and I don't think its close
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Old 10-01-2007, 04:18 PM
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Default Re: TT on aggro

hero shouldn't be worrying about spewing against the LAGtard in this hand, hero should be worrying about the unknown who is raising our flop lead. if this were heads-up against the LAGtard I'd go AT MOST 3 bets on the flop before check/calling dry turn and river cards.

There's just too much action on this flop against our second pair. Fold.
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Old 10-01-2007, 04:36 PM
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Default Re: TT on aggro

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There's just too much action on this flop against our second pair. Fold.

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This was kinda my main argument to fold, but i feared i played to weak, specially after the turn card came out great for us...
But we aren't result oriented right [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 10-01-2007, 06:09 PM
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Default Re: TT on aggro

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MP is unknown, just sat down 5 hands ago, button is kinda idiot on tilt, raising last 7-8 hands PF, &amp; raising constantly postflop.


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even though button capped, we just got 3 bet by an unknown. I would not call 2 more, just because we are working against button's range here.

As for the flop, I hate the flop donk. There is nothing to indicate we have a better hand here. After we donk the flop, a fold is pretty easy as well when it's 2 more to us--we got raised by an unknown after he 3bet preflop. MHING.

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Old 10-01-2007, 06:11 PM
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There's just too much action on this flop against our second pair. Fold.

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This was kinda my main argument to fold, but i feared i played to weak, specially after the turn card came out great for us...
But we aren't result oriented right [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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uh yeah. A favorable turn is only 4% of the time. Also, sometimes (not often though) MP2 has KK and we are a huge dog.
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Old 10-01-2007, 07:47 PM
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MP is unknown, just sat down 5 hands ago

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so this guy posted in EP??

that makes this hand more difficult

... but seriously - donking the flop after you are 3bet and cold-capped PF and the capper is BTN ... what's that about?
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Old 10-02-2007, 12:55 AM
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Default Re: TT on aggro

Grunch

I would just check/fold the flop.
As played fold. Even if button is an idiot MP showed strength PF by 3 betting and now has raised your donk bet, I think it's an easy fold.
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