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Old 09-21-2007, 11:47 AM
vodoo vodoo is offline
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Default playing Ax off-suit OOP

How do you guys play hands like A3 off-suit OOP?

Assuming villain limps, do you bet or check?

I am not sure if im missing value by checking.
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Old 09-21-2007, 12:04 PM
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Default Re: playing Ax off-suit OOP

Depends on what range you think he limps with . If he's limping with speculative hands that either hit or miss then you should raise it up .

In theory , you should raise if you think you will win the pot more than 50% of the time which includes showdown and non showdown wins . Since if this is the case then you would regret not raising it earlier .

Against an habitual limper , you should certainly be able to win the pot 50% of the time even oop .
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Old 09-21-2007, 12:31 PM
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Default Re: playing Ax off-suit OOP

Probably giving away lots of value..but I really dont feel comfortable playing small Aces OOP (or play OOP in general), so I'd check.
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Old 09-21-2007, 01:23 PM
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Default Re: playing Ax off-suit OOP

Cash? tourney? NL? Limit? The answer probably varies a lot. In what I play (NL cash), I usually just check it back unless villain folds to a raise pretty often.
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Old 09-21-2007, 03:19 PM
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Default Re: playing Ax off-suit OOP

Jakeduke , put yourself in your opponent's position . If he has a speculative hand , then don't you think he would prefer that you check it behind , instead of raising ?

So , you should consider doing whatever your opponent's would discourage you from doing .

I think you lose some value in checking with a-x oop against a limper .
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Old 09-21-2007, 05:13 PM
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Default Re: playing Ax off-suit OOP

maybe, but it also keeps me from inflating the pot OOP against someone who's probably calling. Like I said, if villain is limp/folding a lot, sure i'll raise it up with a bunch of hands. but if villain is limp/calling a lot, they're probably doing it with hands better than a4o. And hands like A9+ are all isntaraises, so it's not like I'm checking that many axo hands behind. I'm plenty happy playing small pots with crap hands like a3o OOP.
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Old 09-21-2007, 05:27 PM
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Default Re: playing Ax off-suit OOP

check
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Old 09-22-2007, 04:42 AM
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Default Re: playing Ax off-suit OOP

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Cash? tourney? NL? Limit? The answer probably varies a lot. In what I play (NL cash), I usually just check it back unless villain folds to a raise pretty often.

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NL Hu SnGs
but im talking about the lower blinds level at the beginning
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Old 09-22-2007, 05:05 AM
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Default Re: playing Ax off-suit OOP

CHECK/FOLD OOP

EDIT: SMASH ALL IN WITH 100+ BLINDS
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