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Old 03-14-2007, 01:19 AM
Alexos Alexos is offline
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Against a guy who bought in short, who I will assume is a donk until shown otherwise, I like it.

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Aren't donks the ones we want to avoid bluffing, especially when they are shortstacked, and on that board??
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Old 03-14-2007, 01:50 AM
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I don't see why I can't have 78, 67, etc

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you obviously can, i dont think he's going to think that though. i agree with TWP ([img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img], is that taboo these days? [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]), i dont think he's bet/folding KK/JJ or Qx here. i think he either slowplayed something or will look you up a decent amount with and ace. also agree that u can dump it pf. i know that feeling of getting RRd small and having [censored]...so annoying but i think folding is better probably- especially against guys who probably wont be folding much postflop (natural assumption with no reads vs. some1 who bought in short)
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Old 03-14-2007, 01:54 AM
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I think river is good.
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Old 03-14-2007, 01:55 AM
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If we give him credit for a 3 betting range of TT+. AQ+, which I think is a good standard range for an unknown. He'll fold TT/JJ but I doubt he plays those hands like this, the river bet would make little sense unless he tried to induce a bluff in which case he calls the river raise. KK seems like the main hand we're targeting, which his line seems to fit KK pretty well although I think KK normally checks the river as well. Also we have a K in our hand so that makes KK a little less likely, FWIW.

So basically I think this is pretty bad, we get looked up by a lot of hands here given his range.
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Old 03-14-2007, 01:57 AM
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If you get looked up, I think you deserve strassa's title of "can have ANYTHING"
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Old 03-14-2007, 02:04 AM
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I can't say I'm a fan of preflop, or river.

I think villain's hand looks most like AT. He wasn't sure if he was ahead on the riv, so he made a small bet to either get value from a worse hand or discourage a larger bet by a better ace. Since your push on the end doesn't represent much of anything, I assume he tanks and calls.

It's a valiant effort though.
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Old 03-14-2007, 02:11 AM
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If we give him credit for a 3 betting range of TT+. AQ+, which I think is a good standard range for an unknown. He'll fold TT/JJ but I doubt he plays those hands like this, the river bet would make little sense unless he tried to induce a bluff in which case he calls the river raise. KK seems like the main hand we're targeting, which his line seems to fit KK pretty well although I think KK normally checks the river as well. Also we have a K in our hand so that makes KK a little less likely, FWIW.

So basically I think this is pretty bad, we get looked up by a lot of hands here given his range.

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i give unknowns a much wider range for small reraising than you do. i see stuff like KJ, KQ, and a motley assortment of junk a good amount i feel like
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Old 03-14-2007, 02:11 AM
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If you get looked up, I think you deserve strassa's title of "can have ANYTHING"

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why does whether i get called change whether I can have K9 here or not? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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Old 03-14-2007, 02:13 AM
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i just threw up a little
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Old 03-14-2007, 02:15 AM
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i just threw up a little

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