The Moneymaker Effect Pt II - The Yang Addendum

[seemorenuts]

I could do this now, unilaterally. Watch.

1st step, isolate,

2nd set demands,

3rd set deadlines,

4th act:

Fill Tult, if you do not deliver incrementally better value (etc.) to the customer of quantity x by January 1, 2008, I advocate a complete boycott of your site by all players, on January 2, 2008, 12pm PST.

Now x can be as small or as large as you like, and it could be another site I target, but do you seriously think that if I got some support in this thread that these guys wouldn't be shaking in their #$$%*%^%% boots right now?

let x be 'a completely rake free poker environment,' let's set the bar high.

BTW, you don't even have to be reasonable.

Example? Saddam, you have 48 hours to get out of Iraq.

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Now what does this site do to respond?

They research how other sites can offer rakefree poker.

Hmmm, a sports betting site, eh?

Okay, can we buy a sports betting site?

It doesn't really matter what they do, if the consumer demands it, they will just have to deliver it at a smaller profit than they used to. Nothing in capitalism is really so predictable, it's their problem, we will benefit no matter what? Have a look at the music industry (don't obfuscate, please).

Now isn't this better than what you are getting from paying a $100M to a ball player showing you his elegant home run hitting?

If I succeed, how much is it worth to the poker playing public? It's worth a trillion dollars over 30 years, without the interest.

Relax, I will donate it to charity, research, so we can all live 200 years. I promise.

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The future:

William Shatner won the first $30B prize for best dealer.

Patrons were drawn to his quick yet stilted banter, while cracking great jokes about Sulu and Elephant poop.

That worked out to $82M per day, equivalent to 3 leading man's movie paydays, chirped a delighted Shatner.

The runner up, Patrick Stewart, declined to comment.

Also-ran Angelina Jolie is reported to plan two breast implants in her attempts to entertain the players with four breasts. Paris Hilton is upping the ante by having an additional two breasts implanted on her arms, but she has to work on her ability to correctly create side-pots.

[Bdidd]

Who has the straight jacket?

[seemorenuts]

Okay, either you guys are still too slow or the lurkers are staying out of this thread, so though you don't deserve it since you've all shown no evidence of understanding it, I'll move onto the next stage, beyond the basics. (Sklansky pays me to make him look like a nice guy.)

Please, tell your smarter pokerbuddies to view this thread, and they can start their own threads on the same topic, only worded so you can understand it.

I ignored the Bayesian aspects of these ideas, let's examine the tipping methodology:

When you tell a dealer you're going to tip them in an alternative manner, you don't have to ultimately do so in order to get their attention to perform better over sustained periods of time. This is similar to the optimal lottery strategy that I promulgated in the Sklansky Special forum before--you TELL friends and loved ones that you chose a specific set of numbers, and that you love them and will share with them half of your winnings if you win.

You get many benefits without having to buy any lottery tickets, good feelings all-round and goodwill. If they win before you do, hope for a payoff. It is clearly positive EV, even if you win and don't give anything to anyone else!

Similar things happen re tips to dealers, your reward reliability doesn't have to be zero, but it doesn't need to be anywhere near 100% to be extremely effective.

Let's take the $30B in annual tips worldwide to illustrate.
(Yes, in the next 30 years, the $30B annual figure will seem small in many scenarios.)

Currently, I cannot envision a worse manner of disbursing these tips then what we do now. How much would we have to disburse efficiently to get the same effect or benefit?

As I stated earlier, practically nothing.

If we stopped tipping overnight, the service would be practically the same, after some volatility.

How much would we have to tip efficiently on average to get service 10-100 times better than what we see today?

Well, look at it this way.

If we offered $55M annually world wide in ten prizes ($10M, $9M, etc.) and spent $5M to process... accept nominations, audits, judging, interviewing etc.; that would be what fraction of $30B? 1/5000th? (I'm no good at arithmetic)

If the metrics applied to consistent performance including tapes of all contenders throughout the calendar year, and a nominal fee to enter the competition, say $50-100 to discourage mediocre dealers from wasting the time of the evaluators; would you get a worthwhile increase in dealer performance worth 1/5000th of the cost?

If we culturally enshrined praise and status to the best dealers, which costs very little, and improves their work environment immeasurably, would we get substantial payoff?

We could even install some random $1M prizes to encourage the cynical dealers to perk up.

So you could get a better environment if you 'tipped' 1/5000th of a dollar effectively instead of what you do now.

What's 1/5000th of a dollar? Lol.

Play with the numbers, and imagine the outcomes, to realize what I'm getting at.

Also, to make the B&M casinos relax a bit, you could invent a way to get them to entice dealers to receive zero wages but have them work 1 week out of 52 and still be happier.

*(hint, more people would deal, for fewer hours, yes, I'm exaggerating, but follow the function's direction with milder numbers)

I don't really care if you don't undersatnd me, get someone smarter who does, let them explain it to you, i don't get paid enough, and i certainly don't get appreciated enough, and you're welcome for having me save you all $1 Trillion over the next 30 years.

(P.S. poker for cash won't last that long, but that's another post, and I don't start threads for fear of those [censored] asterisks from imbecile moderators.

I can't spel. grammer no good, live with it.

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btw, it appears that one of the pigeons didn't make it, so how do I cook it, and waht about parasites?

i can't spel, mommy.

[seemorenuts]

In fewer than twenty years, poker will not be played for big money because too many ways of cheating will exist.

It will hopefully evolve into a cultural artifact, and return to the kitchen table played for nominal stakes among trusted family members for amusement.

The mathematics of poker will manifest itself in virtual games in far richer environments, imagine a game of chicken in a "Matrix"-like virtual setting. Instead of cards, we jump off buildings, with informational cues and bluffs, etc.

It may take some forms that are ceremonial, for instance within the context of some diplomatic intercourse.

Gene Roddenberry had some original ideas--I hope we survive long enough.

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[timotheeeee]

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My arrangement with WSEX.com (or any other similar site) will make me NO MONEY

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If WSEX.com knew how you behaved while promoting their site, they might actually pay you to shut up. If they have "arrangements" with people babbling like you are, I'll definitely never be playing there.

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Let's see. $30B US to the best dealer in the world annually.

...And the Nominations are:

Angelina Jolie, topless;

Gisele B., topless;

Jerry Seinfeld, topless;

Catherine Zeta-Jones, topless;

Miss Universe, topless;

Nicole Kidman, topless;

Rosie O'Donnell, bagged;

...

do you get it now?

is it simple enough for you now?

do you know how long the application line-up would be to work as a dealer?

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Interestingly, you've also just found the answer to crappy McDonalds employees.

(and I deal cards, btw)