STARS $20 HUTN..i keep losing to these -40% ROI players????????/

[Deewhizzle]

OK. ive played this guy 6 times. i beat him 3 str8, then he joins my cah table @ .5/1. he takes 1/3 of a buy in from me with a rivered set.ok no problem. so then i go back to hu sng, been playing 20s was doing ok till this game. we had gotten all in with in 5 hands the previous two times, first game he pushed j-5o i called with 10-10,lost. second hand he calls my all in with a gut shot on the turn gets there. so now im kinda steaming. then we happen to play again about 20 mins later. then we play this. i tilted hard. some analization if you could,on some of the hands so i can begin to fix these leaks and return to form.
Transcript for tournament #56565305 requested by DeeWhizzle (antyevryting1@aol.com)
*********** # 1 **************
PokerStars Game #11150749166: Tournament #56565305, $20+$1 Hold'em No Limit -
Match Round I, Level I (10/20) - 2007/07/26 - 18:54:14 (ET)
Table '56565305 1' 2-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: doncrito (1500 in chips)
Seat 2: DeeWhizzle (1500 in chips)
doncrito: posts small blind 10
DeeWhizzle: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DeeWhizzle [4s Js]
doncrito: raises 40 to 60
DeeWhizzle: folds
doncrito collected 40 from pot
DeeWhizzle said, "yt"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 40 | Rake 0
Seat 1: doncrito (button) (small blind) collected (40)
Seat 2: DeeWhizzle (big blind) folded before Flop

*********** # 2 **************
PokerStars Game #11150753848: Tournament #56565305, $20+$1 Hold'em No Limit -
Match Round I, Level I (10/20) - 2007/07/26 - 18:54:31 (ET)
Table '56565305 1' 2-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: doncrito (1520 in chips)
Seat 2: DeeWhizzle (1480 in chips)
DeeWhizzle: posts small blind 10
doncrito: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DeeWhizzle [Kh 5s]
DeeWhizzle: raises 40 to 60
doncrito: calls 40
*** FLOP *** [3h 9d 6h]
doncrito: bets 80
DeeWhizzle: calls 80
*** TURN *** [3h 9d 6h] [4c]
doncrito: bets 1380 and is all-in
DeeWhizzle said, "great"
DeeWhizzle said, "5-2?,7-5? air?"
DeeWhizzle: folds
doncrito collected 280 from pot
doncrito: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 280 | Rake 0
Board [3h 9d 6h 4c]
Seat 1: doncrito (big blind) collected (280)
Seat 2: DeeWhizzle (button) (small blind) folded on the Turn

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PokerStars Game #11150768260: Tournament #56565305, $20+$1 Hold'em No Limit -
Match Round I, Level I (10/20) - 2007/07/26 - 18:55:23 (ET)
Table '56565305 1' 2-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: doncrito (1660 in chips)
Seat 2: DeeWhizzle (1340 in chips)
doncrito: posts small blind 10
DeeWhizzle: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DeeWhizzle [Ah 7s]
doncrito: raises 20 to 40
DeeWhizzle: calls 20
*** FLOP *** [Td 2d 6c]
DeeWhizzle: checks
doncrito: bets 40
DeeWhizzle: raises 100 to 140
doncrito: folds
DeeWhizzle collected 160 from pot
DeeWhizzle: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 160 | Rake 0
Board [Td 2d 6c]
Seat 1: doncrito (button) (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 2: DeeWhizzle (big blind) collected (160)

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PokerStars Game #11150775163: Tournament #56565305, $20+$1 Hold'em No Limit -
Match Round I, Level I (10/20) - 2007/07/26 - 18:55:49 (ET)
Table '56565305 1' 2-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: doncrito (1580 in chips)
Seat 2: DeeWhizzle (1420 in chips)
DeeWhizzle: posts small blind 10
doncrito: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DeeWhizzle [Td 2c]
DeeWhizzle: folds
doncrito collected 20 from pot
doncrito: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 20 | Rake 0
Seat 1: doncrito (big blind) collected (20)
Seat 2: DeeWhizzle (button) (small blind) folded before Flop

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PokerStars Game #11150777663: Tournament #56565305, $20+$1 Hold'em No Limit -
Match Round I, Level I (10/20) - 2007/07/26 - 18:55:58 (ET)
Table '56565305 1' 2-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: doncrito (1590 in chips)
Seat 2: DeeWhizzle (1410 in chips)
doncrito: posts small blind 10
DeeWhizzle: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DeeWhizzle [Kh 5h]
doncrito: calls 10
DeeWhizzle: checks
*** FLOP *** [Ah 9h 8s]
DeeWhizzle: bets 20
doncrito: folds
DeeWhizzle collected 40 from pot
DeeWhizzle: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 40 | Rake 0
Board [Ah 9h 8s]
Seat 1: doncrito (button) (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 2: DeeWhizzle (big blind) collected (40)

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PokerStars Game #11150782399: Tournament #56565305, $20+$1 Hold'em No Limit -
Match Round I, Level I (10/20) - 2007/07/26 - 18:56:15 (ET)
Table '56565305 1' 2-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: doncrito (1570 in chips)
Seat 2: DeeWhizzle (1430 in chips)
DeeWhizzle: posts small blind 10
doncrito: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DeeWhizzle [Ad 9c]
DeeWhizzle: raises 40 to 60
doncrito: calls 40
*** FLOP *** [7s 5s 7h]
doncrito: bets 40
DeeWhizzle: calls 40
*** TURN *** [7s 5s 7h] [4c]
doncrito: bets 100
DeeWhizzle: calls 100
*** RIVER *** [7s 5s 7h 4c] [2h]
doncrito: bets 100
DeeWhizzle: raises 220 to 320
doncrito: calls 220
*** SHOW DOWN ***
DeeWhizzle: shows [Ad 9c] (a pair of Sevens)
doncrito: shows [6d 2d] (two pair, Sevens and Deuces)
doncrito collected 1040 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1040 | Rake 0
Board [7s 5s 7h 4c 2h]
Seat 1: doncrito (big blind) showed [6d 2d] and won (1040) with two pair, Sevens
and Deuces
Seat 2: DeeWhizzle (button) (small blind) showed [Ad 9c] and lost with a pair of
Sevens

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PokerStars Game #11150792856: Tournament #56565305, $20+$1 Hold'em No Limit -
Match Round I, Level I (10/20) - 2007/07/26 - 18:56:54 (ET)
Table '56565305 1' 2-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: doncrito (2090 in chips)
Seat 2: DeeWhizzle (910 in chips)
doncrito: posts small blind 10
DeeWhizzle: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DeeWhizzle [As 5c]
DeeWhizzle said, "wtf?????????????????????????????"
doncrito: calls 10
DeeWhizzle: checks
*** FLOP *** [5h Ts Jh]
DeeWhizzle: checks
doncrito: checks
*** TURN *** [5h Ts Jh] [6s]
DeeWhizzle: checks
doncrito: bets 40
DeeWhizzle: calls 40
*** RIVER *** [5h Ts Jh 6s] [Ah]
DeeWhizzle: checks
doncrito: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
DeeWhizzle: shows [As 5c] (two pair, Aces and Fives)
doncrito: mucks hand
DeeWhizzle collected 120 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 120 | Rake 0
Board [5h Ts Jh 6s Ah]
Seat 1: doncrito (button) (small blind) mucked [7c 6d]
Seat 2: DeeWhizzle (big blind) showed [As 5c] and won (120) with two pair, Aces
and Fives

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PokerStars Game #11150802380: Tournament #56565305, $20+$1 Hold'em No Limit -
Match Round I, Level I (10/20) - 2007/07/26 - 18:57:29 (ET)
Table '56565305 1' 2-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: doncrito (2030 in chips)
Seat 2: DeeWhizzle (970 in chips)
DeeWhizzle: posts small blind 10
doncrito: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DeeWhizzle [5h Kh]
DeeWhizzle: raises 40 to 60
doncrito: folds
DeeWhizzle collected 40 from pot
DeeWhizzle: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 40 | Rake 0
Seat 1: doncrito (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: DeeWhizzle (button) (small blind) collected (40)

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PokerStars Game #11150806910: Tournament #56565305, $20+$1 Hold'em No Limit -
Match Round I, Level I (10/20) - 2007/07/26 - 18:57:46 (ET)
Table '56565305 1' 2-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: doncrito (2010 in chips)
Seat 2: DeeWhizzle (990 in chips)
doncrito: posts small blind 10
DeeWhizzle: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DeeWhizzle [3s Qc]
doncrito: calls 10
DeeWhizzle: checks
*** FLOP *** [8c 7c 6c]
DeeWhizzle: checks
doncrito: bets 40
DeeWhizzle: calls 40
*** TURN *** [8c 7c 6c] [2h]
DeeWhizzle: checks
doncrito: bets 40
DeeWhizzle: calls 40
*** RIVER *** [8c 7c 6c 2h] [Th]
DeeWhizzle: checks
doncrito: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
DeeWhizzle: shows [3s Qc] (high card Queen)
doncrito: shows [Qs 6h] (a pair of Sixes)
doncrito collected 200 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 200 | Rake 0
Board [8c 7c 6c 2h Th]
Seat 1: doncrito (button) (small blind) showed [Qs 6h] and won (200) with a pair
of Sixes
Seat 2: DeeWhizzle (big blind) showed [3s Qc] and lost with high card Queen

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PokerStars Game #11150813735: Tournament #56565305, $20+$1 Hold'em No Limit -
Match Round I, Level I (10/20) - 2007/07/26 - 18:58:11 (ET)
Table '56565305 1' 2-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: doncrito (2110 in chips)
Seat 2: DeeWhizzle (890 in chips)
DeeWhizzle: posts small blind 10
doncrito: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DeeWhizzle [Js 3d]
DeeWhizzle: folds
doncrito collected 20 from pot
doncrito: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 20 | Rake 0
Seat 1: doncrito (big blind) collected (20)
Seat 2: DeeWhizzle (button) (small blind) folded before Flop

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PokerStars Game #11150816342: Tournament #56565305, $20+$1 Hold'em No Limit -
Match Round I, Level I (10/20) - 2007/07/26 - 18:58:21 (ET)
Table '56565305 1' 2-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: doncrito (2120 in chips)
Seat 2: DeeWhizzle (880 in chips)
doncrito: posts small blind 10
DeeWhizzle: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DeeWhizzle [3d Th]
doncrito: raises 2100 to 2120 and is all-in
DeeWhizzle: folds
doncrito collected 40 from pot
doncrito: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 40 | Rake 0
Seat 1: doncrito (button) (small blind) collected (40)
Seat 2: DeeWhizzle (big blind) folded before Flop

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PokerStars Game #11150819283: Tournament #56565305, $20+$1 Hold'em No Limit -
Match Round I, Level I (10/20) - 2007/07/26 - 18:58:32 (ET)
Table '56565305 1' 2-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: doncrito (2140 in chips)
Seat 2: DeeWhizzle (860 in chips)
DeeWhizzle: posts small blind 10
doncrito: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DeeWhizzle [8c Ts]
DeeWhizzle: calls 10
doncrito: checks
*** FLOP *** [Jd Kh Qh]
doncrito said, "I WILL SLEEP"
doncrito: bets 40
DeeWhizzle: calls 40
*** TURN *** [Jd Kh Qh] [4h]
doncrito: bets 60
DeeWhizzle: folds
doncrito collected 120 from pot
doncrito: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 120 | Rake 0
Board [Jd Kh Qh 4h]
Seat 1: doncrito (big blind) collected (120)
Seat 2: DeeWhizzle (button) (small blind) folded on the Turn

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PokerStars Game #11150829895: Tournament #56565305, $20+$1 Hold'em No Limit -
Match Round I, Level I (10/20) - 2007/07/26 - 18:59:12 (ET)
Table '56565305 1' 2-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: doncrito (2200 in chips)
Seat 2: DeeWhizzle (800 in chips)
doncrito: posts small blind 10
DeeWhizzle: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DeeWhizzle [Kh 3c]
doncrito: calls 10
DeeWhizzle: checks
*** FLOP *** [2h 5s 7h]
DeeWhizzle: checks
doncrito: bets 40
DeeWhizzle: calls 40
*** TURN *** [2h 5s 7h] [6h]
DeeWhizzle: checks
doncrito: bets 80
DeeWhizzle: calls 80
*** RIVER *** [2h 5s 7h 6h] [Kd]
DeeWhizzle: bets 660 and is all-in
doncrito: calls 660
*** SHOW DOWN ***
DeeWhizzle: shows [Kh 3c] (a pair of Kings)
doncrito: shows [6s 2s] (two pair, Sixes and Deuces)
doncrito collected 1600 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1600 | Rake 0
Board [2h 5s 7h 6h Kd]
Seat 1: doncrito (button) (small blind) showed [6s 2s] and won (1600) with two
pair, Sixes and Deuces
Seat 2: DeeWhizzle (big blind) showed [Kh 3c] and lost with a pair of Kings
help me please. ty
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[laser16]

I have never really studied hu play but do beat these games so take my response fwiw.

Hand #1 good

hand #2 I would raise or fold the flop against the player you describe I think I would just muck.

Hand #3 I would c/c or c/f c/c if I felt he would give up on the turn with air and c/f otherwise.

Hand #4 fine

Hand #5 fine

Hand #6 I could see folding the turn or calling the turn and river against certain opponents but I don't see why you would raise the river. The only thing you get him to fold is a better Ax which is unlikely or a missed draw/ air which you beat anyway.

Hand #7 fine, sometimes I would raise pf sometime lead the flop but mixing it up here is good.

Hand #8 fine

Hand #9 gross, lead the flop or c/f

Hand #10 fine

Hand #11 fine

Hand #12 havent decided about this one

Hand #13 gross fold the flop

[HokieGreg]

i'll look at it more later, but at a glance i would say you need to stop bluffing against this kind of player. these guys are hard to deal with when you are carddead, but when you are hitting they are will pay you off. you aren't going to win 80% of your games against this type.

[ALPHA TRI]

He aint folding [censored] and nothing on the board seems to scare him. You were playing ok but just donking off chips mainly due to frustration. Hand 2 you tried to steal it didnt work no biggy. Hand 6 the river raises was uber dumb against him hes a donk treat accordingly if you think your a high is good call but never raise. Hand 8 dont check two pair heads up on the river oop. Value bet this guy hard I would have fired 80 at least a check is bad value. Hand 9 dont chase when he has a 2 to 1 chip lead. Last hand was real bad he has about 3 to 1 lead and you starting calling with overcards on coordinated board and the river bet was desperation.

Simple part dont loose focus - hard part put into practice

[ralef]

Losing exposes your leaks. You need to just value bet and wait for a player like this to give you their chips. Sometimes, this will take a while and sometimes you'll get them all in the 4th hand.

[Leo Doyle]

The only thing I would say is that, the villain uses unapplied aggresion, you don't hit flops and in the few hands that you knew the implied odds of connecting on turn or river would be well worth the call, you didn't hit + the odds were quite long. The problem in this situation is your stack constantly shrinks and your on the back foot in every hand, you don't know where you are in a hand any of the hands.

The way I play this style of villain (rightly or wongly) is to really tighten up. villain won't notice as much as you think he will. lose as little of your stack as possile till you get some cards, muck till you hit a flop, and let him bet into you. In the first few hands you've called bet's on the flop only to give up next hand, and he'll keep using that. I try to never bluff, when you do hit he'll bet, you call, on the turn he'll bet, you miniraise, because he's a calling station. and then you'll have a nice size pot to the river. One of these to 5 - 10 of the hands you mucked staight away and you'll gain contol, he'll either flip and start pushing you all in, or he'll quiten down.

All the above of course is depentant on the usuall factors as possible draws etc with your bet sizes.

[TheSalche]

Bluffing + cbetting vs this guy = -EV

Straight value bet every hand you've got top pair or better and you'll win everytime. No need to try to make this a quick and short match, patience is a virtue.

[Deewhizzle]

aftre looking at this about 20 times, i realized that i basicly played this with the thought, that " im better than this guy there is no way he can beat me." and started chasing weak ass draws, tring to get too cute in spots. i appreciate you guys taking the time to take a look at my mess.