50nl KK facing big river bet

laser16 · #1 06-20-2007, 08:20 PM

Original raiser is standard donk. SB is running 13/6/6 over 250 hands and has made some aggro flop moves with position on me the last few orbits all of which I folded to. He has a set like every time here I think? Only other hand I could think of was missed hearts trying to get me off AK but I doubt he coldcalls a threebet with many hands that could flop flush draws. Also my standard 3bet with position is 3x if they raised to 4bb but should I go to like 3.5x if they only raise 3bb pf?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($50)
UTG ($27.10)
MP ($119.95)
CO ($13.30)
Hero ($58.60)
SB ($63.10)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG raises to $1.5, 2 folds, Hero raises to $4.5, SB calls $4.25, 1 fold, UTG calls $3.

Flop: ($14) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $10, SB calls $10, UTG folds.

Turn: ($34) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($34) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets $48.6 (All-In)

shoxbb6 · #2 06-20-2007, 08:25 PM

I'm calling this, but i'm also betting the turn

homeslice · #3 06-20-2007, 08:29 PM

With that board if he's got a set, I could see him c/r the flop, but not c/c with UTG behind him.

I would have bet the turn.

vixticator · #4 06-20-2007, 08:33 PM

You saved money if you folded river. How bad is UTG? I think you should raise a bit more PF.

laser16 · #5 06-20-2007, 08:33 PM

Hes 13/6 calling a 3bet cold oop and QQ got there what are you guys putting him on to call this? He cant have AKhh. Im not saying I should fold this for sure but I just can't give him a hand thats not a set.

laser16 · #6 06-20-2007, 08:34 PM

UTG was pretty bad I forget his stats but he was stacking off really light and just a station in general.

golfinguy5 · #7 06-20-2007, 08:41 PM

Raise more pf, bet the turn, and fold the river.

vixticator · #8 06-20-2007, 08:43 PM

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Hes 13/6 calling a 3bet cold oop and QQ got there what are you guys putting him on to call this? He cant have AKhh.

[/ QUOTE ]Actually you can beat AQh. These players just don't shove top pair on the river that much. It's QQ most of the time and he missed CRAI on the turn.

homeslice · #9 06-20-2007, 08:47 PM

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Hes 13/6 calling a 3bet cold oop and QQ got there what are you guys putting him on to call this? He cant have AKhh. Im not saying I should fold this for sure but I just can't give him a hand thats not a set.

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Given your read on him, and previous play with him, it's sounds like he's been aggressive with you. He could be putting you on pocket jacks, since you checked behind on the turn.

I bet the turn.

justhetip · #10 06-20-2007, 09:04 PM

I think it is a close one, but a fold is probably best here. Going on your read he is trying to run over you maybe, but overbet shoves on the river by bad players tend to be better than missed draws or top pair top kicker. Depends if you think he is creative enough to do this with nothing.
I think what is going through your head is that he could be making a move, but I would wait for a better spot. It seems like this guy wants to give you his money.
Also, betting the turn wouldn't be too bad, but I don't mind checking as well.