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Old 06-25-2007, 03:36 PM
SretiCentV SretiCentV is offline
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Default Re: ZeeJustin claims Angleshooting by known pro in 50K Horse

Do I get a custom title? Perhaps something along the lines of "Hero Patriot American" would be appropriate?
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Old 06-25-2007, 03:59 PM
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Default Re: ZeeJustin claims Angleshooting by known pro in 50K Horse

So was Robert Williamson really scamming or just did'nt hear zee?
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Old 06-25-2007, 04:09 PM
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Default Re: ZeeJustin claims Angleshooting by known pro in 50K Horse

My sources tell me ZeeJustin was angleshooting with his protege, Bill "zeejustin" chen.
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Old 06-25-2007, 04:26 PM
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Default Re: ZeeJustin claims Angleshooting by known pro in 50K Horse

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So was Robert Williamson really scamming or just did'nt hear zee?

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Not hearing Zee isn't an angle-shoot. Telling the floor that you already exposed your hand when you actually had not *is*. In fact, it is more dishonest than just an angle shoot. The only way that Williamson doesn't have to put chips in the pot is if the action went like this:

1) ZeeJustin doesn't call out "bet"
2) Williamson exposes hand BEFORE
3) Justin now says that he said "bet"

Apparently a number of people at the table agree that #1 is not met -- Justin did say "bet." In my opinion, if the floor believes that he said "bet", Williamson should have to pay regardless of the truth of #2.

Justin alleged that #2 didn't happen until after #3 and further that Williamson lied about the sequence of events to the floor. If that is true, Williamson was seriously out of line.

If Williamson didn't lie about #2, then he isn't really shooting an angle so much as just got a lucky floor ruling. It could be that Justin said #3 at about the same time as Williamson rolled his cards and then it isn't a lie, but just a debate about the facts. If Williamson lied about #2, he's a jerk.

Based on Daniel's comment, it looks like the first floor ruled in Justin's favor and the second floor ruled the other way. Welcome to live poker.
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Old 06-25-2007, 04:36 PM
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Default Re: ZeeJustin claims Angleshooting by known pro in 50K Horse

In other news, whats up with his blog saying Team Bodog?
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Old 06-25-2007, 04:51 PM
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Default Re: ZeeJustin claims Angleshooting by known pro in 50K Horse

Poker needs to clean up it's act.
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Old 06-25-2007, 05:20 PM
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Default Re: if RW III was guilty ....

he could go into long diatribe about how most players angle shoot and that he is being unfairly singled out by Harrah's, and encourage a boycott of the rest of WSOP.

To make amends RW III could donate part of his future winnings like Barry G because let's face it Robert Williamson original and Robert Williamson II were great people, obv.

Seriously though, i guess Zee felt strongly enough to write about an angle shoot. Perhaps he might begin to understand ... oh maybe not.
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Old 06-25-2007, 05:21 PM
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Default Re: ZeeJustin claims Angleshooting by known pro in 50K Horse

So if I'm last to act and it's on someone else I can just show my hand and not have to call a bet?
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Old 06-25-2007, 05:24 PM
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Default Re: ZeeJustin claims Angleshooting by known pro in 50K Horse

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So if I'm last to act and it's on someone else I can just show my hand and not have to call a bet?

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Quickly say check too. Then you're good.
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Old 06-25-2007, 06:05 PM
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Default Re: ZeeJustin claims Angleshooting by known pro in 50K Horse

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So if I'm last to act and it's on someone else I can just show my hand and not have to call a bet?

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Quickly say check too. Then you're good.

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And it helps to periodically slip the floorman a hundred (or more depending on the situation).
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