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View Poll Results: What's the most annoying signature call in televised baseball?
CWS' Hawk Harrelson's "You can.. PUT IT ON THE BOOOOARD.... YYYES!!! 18 30.51%
CWS' Hawk Harrelson's "He gone." 27 45.76%
I've never watched a CWS broadcast 14 23.73%
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Old 07-18-2007, 07:42 AM
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Default Re: ** WSOP ME, FT Sweat, Tuesday, July 17 **

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At the time, I thought Childs had a slightly smaller pair, and read Yang as strong. I am not sure about Yang, but what I think was the gigantic mistake in that hand, if I recall correctly, is that Child reraised Yang preflop, and this created a huge pot, with giant odds, which really committed both players to the hand. It would have been a much better play against a weak postflop player just to call, and then play after the flop, and disguise the strength of your hand. Yes, you will get flop where you will have to throw it away, but you will be very unlikely to lose more than half your chips.

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Childs raised UTG with QQ, and Yang 3bet from UTG+1, so I still don't think he was bluffing. That's a weird, dumb spot to bluff from.

When I was watching, it seemed very obvious after Childs stood up that he had QQ, meaning Yang probably had JJ+. In hindsight, this was probably incorrect, but at the time, I remember thinking it was a good laydown unless he was getting better than 2-to-1, and I don't think he was.

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I think it was about 2-1. And I said I wasn't sure about the action, thank you for the polite correction. I just think that Yang read strength generally, and if you aren't moving in on that flop, (which I thought was probably correct at that point), then you probably shouldn't have called the large reraise. It just leaves you in no-man's land, especially with Yang acting first. You have to decide if you are willing to play that hand for all your chips for at least most of the the flops, or I don't really understand calling. I don't like throwing away queens, but if I'm not planning on calling all bets...., if someone doesn't agree could you explain your point of view?
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Old 07-18-2007, 07:43 AM
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Default Re: ** WSOP ME, FT Sweat, Tuesday, July 17 **

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Another calling station donkey who got hit by a deck and won all coinflips.
Hail the world champion.

God, i miss the Raymer days.

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except the three he lost to double up each one of his final 3 opponents.

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If he doesn't suck out with J8, he never gets that far.

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Actually I think the big hand was earlier when Lee Childs folded QQ. In hindsight, I would say it's 90%+ that Yang was bluffing there (or overplaying a worse hand).

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This really was huge. Yang was most likely bluffing and when Lee showed the QQ face up Yang was like "Wow, I can so run over this table the lord has blessed me good game sirs."
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Old 07-18-2007, 08:02 AM
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Default Re: ** WSOP ME, FT Sweat, Tuesday, July 17 **

The whole flag waving by Lam before the hand was even dealt was a little odd btw.
So was the USA chanting.
I guess I'll never understand nationalism :P
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Old 07-18-2007, 08:03 AM
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Default Re: ** WSOP ME, FT Sweat, Tuesday, July 17 **

lol frenchaments
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Old 07-18-2007, 08:05 AM
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Default Re: ** WSOP ME, FT Sweat, Tuesday, July 17 **

Regarding the QQ hand, can someone post the exact stack sizes preflop, the betting pf and the action postflop again? thanks
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Old 07-18-2007, 08:17 AM
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Default Re: ** WSOP ME, FT Sweat, Tuesday, July 17 **

Fell asleep and just woke up again.

GG Yang, I'm just really happy to have a world champ who isn't Jamie Gold.
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Old 07-18-2007, 09:00 AM
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Default Re: ** WSOP ME, FT Sweat, Tuesday, July 17 **

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The whole flag waving by Lam before the hand was even dealt was a little odd btw.
So was the USA chanting.
I guess I'll never understand nationalism :P

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Waving the flag before you win is almost an admission that you know you are not going to win, and you have to get it in before your are eliminated.


As for the USA chanting, it must be said that considering how there was only one USA guy among the final five, the fact that the USA player pulled it out was noteworthy.

The last five countries were: USA, Canada, South Africa, Russia, and UK.
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Old 07-18-2007, 09:35 AM
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Default Re: ** WSOP ME, FT Sweat, Tuesday, July 17 **

Work -> 14 Hours WSOP ME FT -> IHOP -> Work
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Old 07-18-2007, 10:16 AM
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I am pretty sure I would have gone broke with Childs' QQ. I just don't think I could have folded on that board.
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Old 07-18-2007, 10:19 AM
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I am pretty sure I would have doubled up with Childs' QQ. I just don't think I could have folded on that board.

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