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#44
09-25-2007, 04:01 PM
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Re: Really, really, really thin value vs Samo
does anyone think he can bet worse for value if we check to him?
isn't it terrible for him to bluff on this board? god i'm terribly vexed by this hand. i guess if anything i'm back to almost liking the bet size- if, and o nly if, samo is capable of putting you on the level that knows that he interprets just over PSBs as v strong, therefore are making this bet thinking you'll always get a fold since it woul dbe such a bad spot to bluff, and because of those things, and the fact that hes usually not real strong here (Ax or w/e i guess if you define that as strong) he'll call with 87, orsomething. add in the fact he prob floats light on A high flops and even chekcs turn wiht it sometimes (tho less likely ob board with a draw) and i'm back to thining this is okay, but maybe juss a psb would do the trick too. bah,. 
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#45
09-25-2007, 04:43 PM
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Re: Really, really, really thin value vs Samo
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[ QUOTE ] River: CRai.. you'll get called about 2% of the time.. [/ QUOTE ] you know you can't count the times he folded a worse hand as a successful bluff right? [/ QUOTE ] Count it 1/2 of the times for value-bluffs.
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#46
09-25-2007, 04:43 PM
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Re: Really, really, really thin value vs Samo
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does anyone think he can bet worse for value if we check to him? isn't it terrible for him to bluff on this board? it vexes me. i'm terribly vexed by this hand. [/ QUOTE ] 
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#48
09-25-2007, 11:52 PM
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Re: Really, really, really thin value vs Samo
i'd probably check the flop as a default, and i don't like the river bet size.
also to ppl saying you won't get bluffraised here, well generally when you guys bet so damn big on the river it's because you don't wanna get (check)raised allin, i bluffraise these big river bets all the time and they fold every time. you're checkraising a boat here and are hard pressed to call with trips
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#49
09-26-2007, 12:13 AM
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Re: Really, really, really thin value vs Samo
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i'd probably check the flop as a default, and i don't like the river bet size. also to ppl saying you won't get bluffraised here, well generally when you guys bet so damn big on the river it's because you don't wanna get (check)raised allin, i bluffraise these big river bets all the time and they fold every time. you're checkraising a boat here and are hard pressed to call with trips [/ QUOTE ] CTS _____________________ ______________________ ______________________ ______________________ ______________________ Sauce (visual representation of my thoughts)
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#50
09-26-2007, 12:51 AM
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Re: Really, really, really thin value vs Samo
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i'd probably check the flop as a default, and i don't like the river bet size. also to ppl saying you won't get bluffraised here, well generally when you guys bet so damn big on the river it's because you don't wanna get (check)raised allin, i bluffraise these big river bets all the time and they fold every time. you're checkraising a boat here and are hard pressed to call with trips [/ QUOTE ] My comment about liking the bet size is vs Samo. I've logged a lot of hands vs Samo and I feel the easiest way for you to not get fried against his awesome fish hunting ability is to bet bet bet. Because once you start checking in this type of spots against him, you will find Samo floating on you like objects on the Red Sea. I have more comments that would help players play vs him but I don't think that's fair so I'll be a nit about it.
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