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Old 05-30-2007, 01:27 AM
Tickner Tickner is offline
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Default 3-betting the flop for protection

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $26.45
<font color="black">Hero (BB): $99.55</font>
UTG: $100.55
CO: $14.67
BTN: $103.25

<font color="black">Reads: </font><font color="blue">Villian here is an unknown player, with datamined stats of 23/15. Do you guys like this flop 3bet, or do you prefer to flat call his raise and try to avoid the 1223232 turn cards that kill you and not know whats going on? Obv this raise commits me, right?</font>

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG calls $1.00, CO folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $5.00</font>, SB folds, Hero calls $4.00, UTG folds

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($11.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $8.00</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $18.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $51.00</font>
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Old 05-30-2007, 01:29 AM
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Default Re: 3-betting the flop for protection

Yes to your question and no I don't like this. I much prefer a flatcall, and folding the flop with a good read (which you obv don't have) is fine. Standard SA/WB situation if you know he isn't bluffing.
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Old 05-30-2007, 01:30 AM
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Default Re: 3-betting the flop for protection

Hey, an aggression factor would help a little, because a lot of players autoraise flops when led into as the PFR, so it helps to know if he's passive or whatnot.

I'd rr pf. As played I dislike leading this flop because we can get raised off a better hand from time to time and get no value from a cbet from overs or 22 or whatever he might have.
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Old 05-30-2007, 01:32 AM
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Didn't even note PF action. I hate hate a flop lead here.
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Old 05-30-2007, 01:32 AM
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Default Re: 3-betting the flop for protection

Meh, I think I check-call this flop, purely because we can get bluff-raised off our hand a lot here, raised by draws, and all the hands that beat us and that puts us in a very crappy spot. I don't know if this is any good though.
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Old 05-30-2007, 01:32 AM
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Default Re: 3-betting the flop for protection

just push if you're going to do this, i think it could be marginally profitable

but i usually just call
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Old 05-30-2007, 01:33 AM
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Didn't even note PF action. I hate hate a flop lead here.

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okay, alternative line?
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Old 05-30-2007, 01:34 AM
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C/C and go from there.
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Old 05-30-2007, 01:35 AM
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Default Re: 3-betting the flop for protection

3 betting this pf makes this a lot easier to play
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Old 05-30-2007, 01:35 AM
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3 betting this pf makes this a lot easier to play

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Was just gonna say this.
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