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Old 11-03-2007, 09:23 AM
mattiesmat mattiesmat is offline
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Default $16 - KK, surprise card hits

Sorry, I can't remember reads, but how is this?
I think it's too passive and I might have lost a lot of value.
When the ace hit on the flop, I figured it was likely in his calling range and I played it save.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (8 handed) by Hand Converter CG

CO (t1905)
Button (t1260)
SB (t990)
BB (t1095)
Hero (t1530)
UTG+1 (t1815)
MP1 (t1405)
MP2 (t3500)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t150</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, CO calls t150, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>.

Flop: (t375) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, CO checks.

Turn: (t375) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t250</font>, CO calls t250.

River: (t875) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, CO checks.

Final Pot: t875
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Old 11-03-2007, 09:26 AM
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Default Re: $16 - KK, surpise card hits

did you win?
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Old 11-03-2007, 10:48 AM
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Default Re: $16 - KK, surpise card hits

Looks fine to me. There's an overcard, and three cards to a heart flush on the board already, not to mention the pair of tens. It is a little passive, but your hand isn't amazingly strong here.

I can also see another smallish bet on the river, maybe 300 if you think you're ahead here, but I think I like checking better.
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Old 11-03-2007, 10:53 AM
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Default Re: $16 - KK, surprise card hits

Against just one player I'd usually just bet this flop for about 200, an ace is a huge part of our range and a lot of what villain has will probably give up right away.
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Old 11-03-2007, 10:55 AM
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Default Re: $16 - KK, surprise card hits

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Against just one player I'd usually just bet this flop for about 200, an ace is a huge part of our range and a lot of what villain has will probably give up right away.

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QFT. I used to always check with an ace on flop but now I always bet and am very suprised at how often I take it down.
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Old 11-03-2007, 11:18 AM
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Default Re: $16 - KK, surprise card hits

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Old 11-03-2007, 01:10 PM
JacJacAtk JacJacAtk is offline
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Default Re: $16 - KK, surprise card hits

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Against just one player I'd usually just bet this flop for about 200, an ace is a huge part of our range and a lot of what villain has will probably give up right away.

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You can make an argument for betting the flop, but getting villain to fold worse hands really shouldn't be part of it.
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Old 11-03-2007, 01:14 PM
mattiesmat mattiesmat is offline
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Default Re: $16 - KK, surprise card hits

I think betting on flop makes sense if he is likely to fold Ace-rag (a better hand).
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Old 11-03-2007, 02:09 PM
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I think betting on flop makes sense if he is likely to fold Ace-rag (a better hand).

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No donk in the history of sng's has called pf with ace-rag and then folded on the flop.
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Old 11-03-2007, 02:50 PM
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Default Re: $16 - KK, surprise card hits

Why would he fold post if he called pre with an A-rag and hit top pair? Betting the flop only folds out hands you beat, and get calls by hands that beat you.
I would have checked turn also, and called a bet. Same on river.
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