50NL 87s Rivered Flush Faces Shove

Numfar · #1 10-09-2007, 03:38 AM

Villain was about 50/20 over 20 hands or so. I actually hadn't noticed him until this hand but he had just doubled up from this table's resident village idiot who had now left. He had typed "ship it" in chat.

I checked Flop because I thought that there was no chance he would fold. His FCB was 20%, the flop hit parts of his range and, on OnGame, big stacks don't fold flops.

I thought that the Turn was a pretty standard semi-bluff. He would fold here with nothing but I assumed he'd call with as little as a GSSD and maybe middle pair if he didn't believe me.

Hit Flush on River but WTF?

Poker Room skin
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
4 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: $49.25
Button: $48.20
SB: $42.25
BB: $114.80

Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is UTG with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Hero raises to $2, 2 folds, BB calls.

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($4.25, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($4.25, 2 players)
BB bets $3, Hero raises to $10, BB calls.

River: 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($24.25, 2 players)
BB is all-in $102.8, Hero ?.

Zagga · #2 10-09-2007, 03:54 AM

I call, Backdoor flush is the nuts

But why don't you bet the flop?

EDIT: nvm, read it. still I would bet the flop

bsball8806 · #3 10-09-2007, 03:55 AM

I call this all day against a 50/20. While this is his standard "get as much money in as possible in the hopes case he calls line", imo there's a much wider range of hands than a flush he does this with (set, straight, even possibly 2pr)

i just can't see myself folding here (his bet is about 13 dollars more than pot, so not the huge overbet the 103 dollars might lead)

Zagga · #4 10-09-2007, 03:58 AM

Didn't think of that yet, of course you must cal for only $13 more then the pot.

btw rebuy before hand

waldo027 · #5 10-09-2007, 04:29 AM

I would say "WTF?" because that's such a stupid bet, as I instacall and hopefully get shipped his money. No way will I fold this 4 handed and against a guy with his stats, albeit a small sample size.

Nemesis69 · #6 10-09-2007, 05:12 AM

I'm cbetting flop here. I instacall river.

CruS · #7 10-09-2007, 05:24 AM

such an easy call

cashstrapped · #8 10-09-2007, 08:02 AM

Definate call

scallop · #9 10-09-2007, 08:32 AM

Seriously tho... how often are these overbet open shoves bluffs?

i think 46 is his most likely holding that we beat, and if its 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] then.... just lol is all i can say.

I call, but I really hate it tbh.

Also deffo bet the flop. You are basically saying "when I check I dont want to bluff because you will call, but when I have a hand I want to bet because you will call" - Pretty transparent.

rjacobs003 · #10 10-09-2007, 08:48 AM

I call the river sure but as said before, bet the flop. An FCB of 20% over 20 hands is generally not that meaningful.