LOTR: Return of the King (GAME THREAD)

[Zurvan]

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You're assuming we GET to a final three. What if must lynch is with 2-3 wolves still alive? We're far enough behind that we have to consider it.

I'm going to think about what that means with a must-lynch round of 5 or even round of 7. You're right that the real aragorn is basically a confirmed right now.

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Again, regardless of the number of wolves alive at must lynch, if the 2 claimed doctors are there, then there is less chance of a making a mistake.

[Mark_K]

BTW, And as Zurvan the smart-wolf, he is doing what he has to do to protect the best interests of the wolves.

Try to push the village off a Nich lynch and sow doubt.

Village, remember there are 12 villagers left, 4 hidden wolves, Books, and Gollum.

Eowyn can still nail the witchking...

We have a %25 chance of Nich being Sauron. This will give us Books. The wolves would be down to 3...

We have a %25 chance Nich is the WitchKing. This would help Frodo/Aragorn/Village in a HUGE way.

%25 chance he's the godfather... A great wolf to kill anytime.

For the record, I'm guessing Zurvan is the Rider. Since that wolf is the most "disposable"

[Stephen H]

Mark, Zurvan's more likely to convince me than I am to convince him.

However:

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In the extreme case where they do not kill Aragorn, and we do not lynch him, we end up in a final 3 where 1 villager knows the wolf for certain. This is good for the village, as it cuts in half the number of villagers that can make a mistake for the final wolf to jump on & win the game. This means the wolves HAVE to kill him before must lynch. Well before must lynch, in fact, because they have to get rid of him while other wolves are still alive.

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I have to disagree with this. I've seen plenty of endgames where the wolf left alive the confirmed villager into the final three because they thought they could fool him; it's not a clear-cut advantage for village here.

[Zurvan]

Mark: some evidence for me being a wolf

Again, don't use the words "you disagree with me" or "the player you replaced was AFK"

[fmxda]

Zurvan, the player you replaced WAS very wolfy.

You coming in here for half a day and trying to act villagery does not change that.

[Zurvan]

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Mark, Zurvan's more likely to convince me than I am to convince him.

However:

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In the extreme case where they do not kill Aragorn, and we do not lynch him, we end up in a final 3 where 1 villager knows the wolf for certain. This is good for the village, as it cuts in half the number of villagers that can make a mistake for the final wolf to jump on & win the game. This means the wolves HAVE to kill him before must lynch. Well before must lynch, in fact, because they have to get rid of him while other wolves are still alive.

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I have to disagree with this. I've seen plenty of endgames where the wolf left alive the confirmed villager into the final three because they thought they could fool him; it's not a clear-cut advantage for village here.

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It is a clear-cut advantage. That's not to say the village always wins in this spot. But I think it doubles the odds the village wins (in a vaccuum). Obviously, the individuals involved, and the other villagers opinions on the matter coming in, make a huge difference.

[Zurvan]

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Zurvan, the player you replaced WAS very wolfy.

You coming in here for half a day and trying to act villagery does not change that.

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The first line is fine, if you can show what he did that was wolfy.

BEING UTR IS NOT, IN ITSELF, WOLFY

As I recall of Rich when he used to play, he was pretty UTR as all roles.

[Stephen H]

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Nobody seems to feel like commenting on my suggestion.

kill chuckleslovakian

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Right now I'd prefer to handle the doctor situation, but chuckles (or clown) is a plan if we're leaving them alive.

[fmxda]

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BEING UTR IS NOT, IN ITSELF, WOLFY

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How about nightposting before the game starts?

What about pushing Herbie day one who has now made a believable Aragorn claim?

What about slyly saying he could vote for nich, the less believable Aragorn claim, without actually voting him?

What about roleclaiming "hobbit" without any real pressure?

What about randomly voting me as a unrelated addon to a terrible post?

The above is essentially a summary of all the posts he has made in this thread, all 5 of them.

[Mark_K]

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Mark: some evidence for me being a wolf

Again, don't use the words "you disagree with me" or "the player you replaced was AFK"

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Evidence is loosely defined in WW. First RichC was already on my suspect list. Then you come in today, and push clowntable with no "evidence". We even get to see TheBram pop in (another wolf) and make wolf-wolf conversation with you. He then leaves with no vote cast...

You then downplay dismiss any logical move that the village should make.