Which is easier to beat: Poker, or Business?

[eastbay]

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The question is unclear. A good start would be to define exactly what you mean by easier, business, and beating it. Are we talking about which of the two is it easier to make money at? I don't understand.

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I don't see what's difficult to understand about the question.

In 2008, say, you have to make $200k. Is your best choice to do that with a business or by playing poker?

eastbay

[elus2]

what if you run bad at both

[Thremp]

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what if you run bad at both

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ysscky

[John21]

In business you have the opportunity to bring value to the marketplace, thereby creating value where little or none existed before.

Poker is a zero-sum game where the only way to win is by another's loss.

Taken to the extreme: if everyone quit their jobs and closed their businesses - we'd all end up with nothing.

There will always be a need for people who can in one way or another bring some sort of value to others and/or the marketplace. And that underlying need makes business "easier to beat," simply because you don't have to beat it just work with it.

[kagame]

poker we start from the same level to a large extent, every hand at least is seperate and unbiased

there are many socioeconomic advantages and things like govt subsidies and all the huge corporations already in existance that are causing small businesses to fail like crazy, and limit opportunities for smart young people

poker is the "more fair" imho

[prohornblower]

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poker we start from the same level to a large extent, every hand at least is seperate and unbiased

there are many socioeconomic advantages and things like govt subsidies and all the huge corporations already in existance that are causing small businesses to fail like crazy, and limit opportunities for smart young people

poker is the "more fair" imho

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Answer the question. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

FWIW, I vote business.

[CrayZee]

I voted for business because in poker you have to put the hours in and grind a wage. Thus the ceiling is a lot higher in business. Also, I think that on some levels, if you are smart enough to be a good poker player, you're probably smart enough in other endeavors.

Poker is a kind of the median between a business and a job. I guess it would actually be considered a "marginal business" like running a single restaurant, laundry matt, dry cleaning, or landscaping business, etc. Each one of these can be pretty profitable but probably won't exceed, say, $200k/year. Only once you can compete on a larger scale w/ these businesses can you consider it a non-marginal business (e.g. creating a marketable chain, etc.). That probably takes a skill level that most people do not possess. If you can duplicate the business a couple times, $200k is probably more easily obtainable than making $200k in poker...that's just a guess.

People that I've met that have run restaurants, seem to do pretty well replicating once they have at least a slightly recognizable local brand. They do not seem to possess exceptional training, education, or above average intelligence.

[Baulucky]

Starting at $0 or some other level?.

The trivial solution is to own pieces of businesses. Very easy to make $200K a year if you have $2M to start with and invest semi wisely. It only takes a few minutes per month to make the buy sell decisions.

Now, to build a BR from scratch and up to ~$500K, I'd say that Poker is the "easiest", hands down unless you get a, very rare and profitable and expeditely implemented idea or advantage in some business niche.

[Thremp]

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poker we start from the same level to a large extent, every hand at least is seperate and unbiased

there are many socioeconomic advantages and things like govt subsidies and all the huge corporations already in existance that are causing small businesses to fail like crazy, and limit opportunities for smart young people

poker is the "more fair" imho

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What kind of quasi-socialist crap is this? Wrong forum.

[My_Name_Is_Hov]

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poker we start from the same level to a large extent, every hand at least is seperate and unbiased

there are many socioeconomic advantages and things like govt subsidies and all the huge corporations already in existance that are causing small businesses to fail like crazy, and limit opportunities for smart young people

poker is the "more fair" imho

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What kind of quasi-socialist crap is this? Wrong forum.

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lol... but what he was saying is that in business alot of your success depends on your relationships with people and what those people think of you. Whereas in online poker your success depends on how good you actually are.