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Old 04-19-2007, 02:23 AM
shaniac shaniac is offline
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I think any reporter who accepts money from a player should be fired and blacklisted. Then again known plagiarists aren't even fired in what passes for "media" in the poker world. *Gulp* I've never been leveled before I hope this isn't it.

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You're not being leveled, and I don't agree with your sentiment. There's at least a vague tradition of tournament winners tipping out certain members of the media, but it's not quite as standard as dealer/floor tokes.

Also, the poker media mostly exists to promote the game of poker itself in a biased/favorable way, and it doesn't have to live up to the same objective standards of the mass media, so save the righteous indignation...when a player who won the event tips a reporter/photographer, it's usually just a token of gratitude resulting from a bond that one tends to form throughout the course of the long, big tournament--it's a nice, but also relatively insignificant gesture. The reporters are working for you in a way just like the dealers and floorman are. Everyone has his own tipping policy, but tips to the media are certainly not unheard-of, nor are they unethical.
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Old 04-19-2007, 03:47 AM
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I hae no clue that it was semicommon to tip the media...actually, I have never even heard of it until now. I played with anna at the final table of the $2000 event and also early in the $3000 event. She is pretty much a calling station that cant fold any pair...Early in the $3000 event, the called a pot bet on the flop and the turn vs Vinny Vihn on a Q9862 board with 33. It was wild. Hopefully she is at my table in the $25,000 event.
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Old 04-19-2007, 04:42 AM
Al_Capone_Junior Al_Capone_Junior is offline
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Anna tipped 12K out of her winnings not because of the advice of her friends but out of the goodness of her heart. I had never heard of tipping the media and neither had anyone in Anna's group of friends, so I don't think we can hold that against her.

In addition, CP got a number of things wrong. Anna asked me to post a few corrections here:

Actually, she did not use her pay check---(her paycheck was $150). She had told me she was given $400 to play by a friend who told her if she lost it would not matter. She took the $400 and won $600 playing 15/30. Then the next day used $230 of it to win a satellite to the 2K tournament.

She also entered in a last longer for $100, which she ended up winning ($400). When she had won 16th she gave back the 400 + 1400 to her friend who gave her the
$400 to play with.

Also I explained the deal that was made in my post yesterday. Why CP did not report the winnings correctly I'm not sure.

Just thought I should straighten up some things.

Al
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Old 04-19-2007, 04:58 AM
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No poker media can report deals. They are invited guests of the casinos and get the boot if they do, it sucks and I personally disagree with it.

Anna was a great winner and from what I could tell a cool person. This thread should be about her victory and her play. It's clear she's a very giving person, and Im sorry to insinuate otherwise. She is one of the few players at final tables that was having fun, something that poker misses sorely.
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Old 04-19-2007, 05:00 AM
Al_Capone_Junior Al_Capone_Junior is offline
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I'm sure writers taking money from people they write about is quite common, despite any ramifications orimplications. But you'd hope they at least got the details right. No offense to Anna or any of CP's subjects, but that magazine is really useful when your birdcage needs new liner. It's the people magazine of poker. People works great in your birdcage too.

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Old 04-19-2007, 05:13 AM
Al_Capone_Junior Al_Capone_Junior is offline
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Ok I wasn't aware no deal reporting was allowed. Who knows what ignorance and stupidity is behind that nonsense. Seems the media also isn't allowed to report generous tips given by the players.

And you are right, Anna is a cool person. She's a refreshing exception from the norm. Pro or high limit poker players are mostly a bunch of total jerks, my estimate is 10:1 jerks to "other.". Gee, seems there's something else that never gets reported, otherwise we wouldn't have such jerks (chan, farha etc) on the covers of all these crappy poker magazines.

I prefer telling it like it is. Guess CP won't be calling me for that open reporter position.

Al
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Old 04-19-2007, 05:19 AM
Al_Capone_Junior Al_Capone_Junior is offline
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The problem with the poker media is that they report in a bias/favorable way, but their words are presented as if they are truthful and correct, which of course is far from reality.

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Old 04-19-2007, 05:26 AM
Al_Capone_Junior Al_Capone_Junior is offline
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As I said I won't be discussing much as far as hands/strategy in this thread. But I can chuckle to myself when I read other people's posts.

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Old 04-19-2007, 05:32 AM
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The problem with the poker media is that they report in a bias/favorable way, but their words are presented as if they are truthful and correct, which of course is far from reality.

Al

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I would agree with that. The problem is there seems to be a disconnect between factual poker reporting (objective) and the marketing and promotion of the "poker lifestyle" (subjective). Media like Cardplayer, Bluff, and Pokerwire need to decide if they want to step up and become the leader of live results tracking hand analysis ect. There is a big question on how much of a market there actually is for those services especially because they are expensive to provide properly. Joe public in Mississippi doesn’t care about the some of the stories that go on with "unknowns" in the tournament circuit. He wants to see pictures and stories about the people he sees on TV. I’m not making a value judgment either way but it must be considered in framing and understanding the poker media as a whole.
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Old 04-19-2007, 10:43 AM
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Anna failed to tip the media- not expected but always appreciated. Guys like jc tran and greenstien never fail in looking out. Most of us work 15 hour days at less then $10 an hour to bring coverage to everyone.

Btw I Liked Anna a Lot and thought she was a great winner

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I've never been tipped. I think you made a mistake in even mentioning it here.
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