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10-24-2007, 10:39 AM
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Re: PAGING RIGHT-WINGERS: ANOTHER EXPLANATION NEEDED
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] All right, I'll bite. Anyone who has ever listened to Glenn Beck knows he always complains about the Hollywood crowd; movie stars who live in Malibu. He says that they hate what America is and it should be formed into a socialistic state. Once again, anyone who has ever actually LISTENED to the man would know this. [/ QUOTE ] Ummm, so it's ok to take joy in the fact that some move stars' homes ill burn down? OK! [/ QUOTE ] you got it bud. [/ QUOTE ] Blame the Sierra Club... they are the ones who dont want the dry brush removed.... the stars are likely donating mucho dollars to support those whackies at Sierra, all to put their own homes at risk. [/ QUOTE ] have you EVER said anything that was true? [/ QUOTE ] Are you saying the Sierra Club is known for being in favor of removing brush and disturbing the habitat of various wildlife, or that the Hollywood crowd does not donate a lot of money to the Sierra Club? Or Both? Please explain how I am wrong all the time, or at least in the post you are referring to. [/ QUOTE ] From the Sierra Club website: It's time for the Forest Service to make protecting our communities from fire its number-one mission. ... Communities need three kinds of measures: -- Cut brush and small diameter trees to remove flammable materials in the Community Protection Zone (500 yards around a community), creating a fire break so firefighters can control future fires and keep them away from structures. -- Use controlled burning around communities wherever we can to reduce the dead wood and small brush that fuel large fires. Every dollar spent on prescribed burning saves seven dollars on fighting large fires later. -- Help homeowners protect their homes by removing hazards like brush, small trees and overhanging branches, and moving firewood and other flammable material away from structures. ... It is time to stop pointing fingers and to find common ground. Whatever our differences with the timber industry, the Forest Service and the Bush Administration on other forest management issues, we should all agree that every community at risk deserves protection and that the highest priority is providing protection where it is needed most: in the Community Protection Zones. Sierra Club website So, you are (as usual) completely full of crap, pokerbobo. 
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#52
10-24-2007, 10:44 AM
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Re: Agreed....
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How crazy are you going to go when Hillary becomes your president? I really can't wait. It should be delicious. [/ QUOTE ] It depends how successful the Dems will be at vote fraud and getting the illegal immigrant vote.... If all 50 states could require Voter IDs to vote, then the Dems will be in HUGE trouble. If Hillary gets elected (a BIG if), her presidency will be on par with the mess that Jimmy Carter made and she will be a ONE TERM president... Bill Clinton's presidentsy was nothing special and his economic successes were underserved. The economy was already improving from the Bush41 recession and Clinton took responsibility for the recovery BEFORE any of his economic leglislation could take effect. A friendly media also protected Clinton for taking the rap for the lousy economy after the tech bubble popped.... I don't think Hillary will be so lucky....although she will have a friendly media... I lived through the Jimmy Carter presidentsy so I can handle Hillary's nonsense. If you recall, Carter's incompetance so enraged the American people that we got Ronald Reagan for 8 years and 4 years of Bush41. Bush41 would have gotten 8 years if he didn't LIE about raising taxes... If Hillary gets elected, we will have 16 years+ of Republicans in the White House after Hillary serves her ONE TERM.....
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#53
10-24-2007, 11:11 AM
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Re: Agreed....
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[ QUOTE ] Could you provide an example [of Media Matters "misquot[ing] and quoting out of context to make Repubs look bad"]? [/ QUOTE ] http://mediamatters.blogsome.com/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Matters_for_America O'Reilly said that he believes Media Matters took comments he made on his radio program to Juan Williams regarding a dinner with Al Sharpton in Harlem out of context.[27][28] O'Reilly said that the Media Matters piece put together two out of context comments that were initially spoken five minutes apart and presented them as one comment in an effort to mislead readers.[29] In response to the controversy, Williams wrote an editorial for Time noting that in his opinion "the attacks on O'Reilly amounted to an effort to take what he said totally out of context in an attempt to brand him a racist by a liberal group that disagrees with much of his politics."[31] [/ QUOTE ] Neither of these qualify as an example of Media Matters "misquot[ing] and quoting out of context to make Repubs look bad." The first is a link to a blog; the second is Bill O'Reilly and Juan Williams commenting on a recent controversy. An actual example would involve you providing an actual incidence of a "misquote" or "quoting out of context to make Repubs look bad." Humor me--be very, very specific. Also, according to O'Reilly himself, [ QUOTE ] "I'm not a political guy in the sense that I embrace an ideology. To this day I'm an independent thinker, an independent voter, I'm a registered independent...there are certain fundamental things that this country was founded upon that I respect and don't want changed. That separates me from the secularists who want a complete overhaul of how the country is run." [/ QUOTE ] (Of course, he was lying when he claimed to be a "registered independent," but hey...) [ QUOTE ] Talk radio has player MANY audio clips of Hillary admitting she helped to start media matters... [/ QUOTE ] Could you provide an example?
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#54
10-24-2007, 12:08 PM
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Re: PAGING RIGHT-WINGERS: ANOTHER EXPLANATION NEEDED
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] All right, I'll bite. Anyone who has ever listened to Glenn Beck knows he always complains about the Hollywood crowd; movie stars who live in Malibu. He says that they hate what America is and it should be formed into a socialistic state. Once again, anyone who has ever actually LISTENED to the man would know this. [/ QUOTE ] Ummm, so it's ok to take joy in the fact that some move stars' homes ill burn down? OK! [/ QUOTE ] you got it bud. [/ QUOTE ] Blame the Sierra Club... they are the ones who dont want the dry brush removed.... the stars are likely donating mucho dollars to support those whackies at Sierra, all to put their own homes at risk. [/ QUOTE ] have you EVER said anything that was true? [/ QUOTE ] Are you saying the Sierra Club is known for being in favor of removing brush and disturbing the habitat of various wildlife, or that the Hollywood crowd does not donate a lot of money to the Sierra Club? Or Both? Please explain how I am wrong all the time, or at least in the post you are referring to. [/ QUOTE ] From the Sierra Club website: It's time for the Forest Service to make protecting our communities from fire its number-one mission. ... Communities need three kinds of measures: -- Cut brush and small diameter trees to remove flammable materials in the Community Protection Zone (500 yards around a community), creating a fire break so firefighters can control future fires and keep them away from structures. -- Use controlled burning around communities wherever we can to reduce the dead wood and small brush that fuel large fires. Every dollar spent on prescribed burning saves seven dollars on fighting large fires later. -- Help homeowners protect their homes by removing hazards like brush, small trees and overhanging branches, and moving firewood and other flammable material away from structures. ... It is time to stop pointing fingers and to find common ground. Whatever our differences with the timber industry, the Forest Service and the Bush Administration on other forest management issues, we should all agree that every community at risk deserves protection and that the highest priority is providing protection where it is needed most: in the Community Protection Zones. Sierra Club website So, you are (as usual) completely full of crap, pokerbobo. [/ QUOTE ] http://www.idahoforests.org/fire_20020021.htm http://www.sierratimes.com/txt/arpf071800.htm Or, maybe I'm not full of crap. I assume the people coming to the defense of the Sierra Club are in favor of the anti capitalist leanings of the organization. Also that you think they work for they benefit of everyone, but with the history they have regarding private property rights, that is definitly not the case. They may have changed some things on their website to appear more "moderate"... buy it if you want, I don't. By the way, my original comment was done at least partly tongue in cheek, but since you guys seem to want to portray me of being an compulsive liar or just plain dumb.... I figured I'd link to some opposing info.
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#56
10-24-2007, 01:42 PM
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Re: Agreed....
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Could you provide an example? (hillary helping to start media matters) [/ QUOTE ] Minute 1:13 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yeKtXWbbLg Media matters is a political arm of Hillary Clinton. Can you cite an example of media matters attacking Hillary?
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#57
10-24-2007, 02:49 PM
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Media Matters = Clinton Front Group (David Brock)
Mark Levin at his finest.... He knew David Brock when he was a 'conservative'. He characterized Brock as a foaming-at-the-mouth Clinton hater. Since then Brock has come out-of-the-closet and calls himself a reformed Clinton hater.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qT1zCUlvkhk A classic media matters trick of taking two words then providing their spin on the context. In the Rush Limbaugh incident, Media matters appointed themselves as the mind readers that knew what Rush was thinking. They convieniently don't include the references to Jesse Al Zaid (aka Jesse MacBeth) who Rush had referred to a liar, fraud, and of course a phoney soldier. If they just included the transcript of Rush....no one would have said anything. By interpreting Rush's words, Media Matters turn this into a Rush scandal with help from the mainstream press. Hillary admiting she helped start media matters... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yeKtXWbbLg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nlsbjd9-Nt4 Minute 1:08, the pic of David Brock is Hillarious Minute 2:42, Hillary exposes David Brock as a liar who claims that media matters is an independent organization of Hillary. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2ZxYOLPFzI Minute: 4:05, Juan Williams commenting on the dishonesty of Media Matters and CNN that used media matters as a source claiming Bill O'Reilly is a rascist. The first 4 minutes is BIll being his usually boring blowhard self. Bill O'Reilly may be a nitwit, a blowhard, a populist, and a filabustering moron.....but implying he is a rascist is dishonest. I think he is a stupid man who gives people like Al Sharpton a platform that he does not deserve. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4scaVyFTlA Minute: 1:00 Glenn Beck does a great job describing media matters tactcis. Using the phrase, 'John Murtha is a murderer....' The common theme behind David Brock's career is he is a slime merchant. When he was a Repub he wrote a book and said he called Anita Hill, "A bit nutty and a bit slutty". He later said many of the things he said in his book were not true.... His book, "The Real Anita Hill". http://www.amazon.com/Real-Anita-Hil.../dp/0029046564 My god. I actually agree with something written on www.slate.com They call David Brock a liar.... http://www.slate.com/?id=2063759 Slate magazine is about as liberal as you can get... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slate.com Dems, this is the guy that is acting on your behalf.....
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#58
10-24-2007, 07:57 PM
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Re: Media Matters = Clinton Front Group (David Brock)
Since the OP was about Glen Beck remarks about the So. Cal fires, can we talk about this quote from liberal comic icon George Carlin on those fires:
"And these people with the fires and the floods and everything, they overbuilt, they put nature to the test and they get what's coming to them. That's what I say." As far as I can tell, that's way worse than anything Glen Beck said. To actually say "they get what's coming to them" is off the scale idiotic. If Media Matters was so outraged by Beck's comments, they should go bat [censored] crazy over Carlins. However, since Carlin is a liberal, I doubt Media Matters will care too much. Hopefully they have an ounce of consistency and prove me wrong.
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#59
10-25-2007, 02:33 AM
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Re: PAGING RIGHT-WINGERS: ANOTHER EXPLANATION NEEDED
The problem with the OP is that the OP is assuming someone cares about anything that comes out of Glenn Beck's mouth. Anyone that has ever listened to Glenn Beck wishes for his death. The man just brings out that emotion in people. In case you were wondering, yes I have listened to him once and I too wish for his death.
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#60
10-25-2007, 02:40 AM
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Re: PAGING RIGHT-WINGERS: ANOTHER EXPLANATION NEEDED
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The problem with the OP is that the OP is assuming someone cares about anything that comes out of Glenn Beck's mouth. Anyone that has ever listened to Glenn Beck wishes for his death. The man just brings out that emotion in people. In case you were wondering, yes I have listened to him once and I too wish for his death. [/ QUOTE ] Yes, I really love that trait in the vast majority of the left. Anytime anything comes out of the mouths of Limbaugh/O'Reilly/Hannity/Savage/Coulter etc, the leftist comes to the conservative/libertarian and goes "See!?!?" and then gets a befuddled look when we mock them, while the leftist was expecting a large discussion we can't win.
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