Am I bluffing? I think I'm bluffing ($400NL river decision)

[the_main]

No reads on villian.

I just sat at the game, although the previous hand I called a continuation bet from diff. player, and bet the turn when he checked to me. I took down the pot.

This is the very next hand, and I am emulating the same pattern to evoke a response from worse hands.

NOTE: I know a case can be made for shoving the turn, and that might be the best play here, but I'd like to focus on the river decision, because thats where the hand becomes interesting.

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 8 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $376.00
BB: $615.20
UTG: $413.00
UTG+1: $430.20
MP1: $513.00
MP2: $219.20
<font color="black">the_main (CO): $433.00</font>
BTN: $329.70

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> the_main is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (8 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">MP1 raises to $16.00</font>, MP2 folds, the_main calls $16.00, 2 folds, BB calls $12.00

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">MP1 bets $24.00</font>, the_main calls $24.00, BB folds

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($98) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">MP1 bets $28.00</font>, <font color="red">the_main raises to $72.00</font>, <font color="red">MP1 raises to $116.00</font>, the_main calls $44.00

<font color="black">River:</font> ($330) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP1 checks, <font color="red">the_main bets all-in for $277.00</font>

The only thing that can call is a J, or 22, right?
And a J can't check that river, can he?

Hands ahead that I get to fold include, 77, AA and all flushes.

Or do I have enough value to just take this to showdown (my first intstinct)?

[onoble]

Don't like... you get called by the hands that beat you and the hands you bet fold... a zero sum play.

[the_main]

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Don't like... you get called by the hands that beat you and the hands you bet fold... a zero sum play.

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What about a flush, AA, or 77.... they should all fold here, IMO.

[CalledDownLight]

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Don't like... you get called by the hands that beat you and the hands you bet fold... a zero sum play.

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What about a flush, AA, or 77.... they should all fold here, IMO.

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What are you trying to rep? (FWIW I doubt he ever shows up with a flush)

[the_main]

reppin a jack, or trying to.

[CalledDownLight]

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reppin a jack, or trying to.

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Between preflop and the turn I think thats pretty tough, especially since the turn raise makes most sense with Js10s or AsJs. I can't see raising the turn with a jack too often especially since he looks like he's going to let you get to SD cheaply. Obviously this isn't your defalut line with kings, but I think its a bad spot to bluff. You get looked up with most hands that beat you and the few hands in his range that you beat are being floded a lot of the time.

[Raised2Win]

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reppin a jack, or trying to.

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omg dont. why ? U only bluff out AA if u are lucky he is folding, I seriously doubt he folds 77 to your line or even a flush. check this river behind.

+ He really looks strong on turn, I even doubt he has AA or QQ. Quad jacks, quad deuces or 77. and like I said I doubt u
escape even 77 here. Fancy play syndrome here.

[CalledDownLight]

This is definitely a bluff and I don't think I like it much at all. I think I'm calling you with AA here and sometimes QQ (won't you be happy when I show queens though). 77 is a pretty clear call for me in this spot too. I just don't see you being able to rep a jack as you probably wouldn't raise it on the turn and don't usually cold-call with any hands that have a J in them preflop. You're basically trying to rep 77 IMO and that is still a little bit shady. You have enough SD value to just check it down although he probably has AA here a lot (sometimes he shows up with JJ too IMO).

[novel20]

This is not zero sum, this is -EV play.

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Don't like... you get called by the hands that beat you and the hands you bet fold... a zero sum play.

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[novel20]

At least you know you are bluffing.