Absolute Cliffsnotes (Mod edit: AP thread, part 2)

[Trogdor!]

Dragon

Probability that such comprehensive evidence is just variance < Probabilty that someone has a superuser account

Considering that it is virtually impossible that someone has a superuser account, you should now understand how statistically unlikely that this is just variance, and why we are acting like it is written in stone

[dragonystic]

if you are so darn sure why not make some money off it. $500 side bet with me?

if its proven they could see hole cards, you win the $500
if its proven they couldnt see hole cards, i win the $500
if its inconclusive after its all said and done, bet is off

book it?

[ClubChamp04]

Dragon,

This guy was playing vs some of the best NL players on the net. It is not as easy as your so called "pwnage" at 10cent NL. \

Do you have any stats from your crazy sessions where you "pwned them for 200bb's/100 over 100's of hands"? We will be looking forward to your screenshots of this.

[Injection]

lol scammaments.

[augie_]

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if you are so darn sure why not make some money off it. $500 side bet with me?

if its proven they could see hole cards, you win the $500
if its proven they couldnt see hole cards, i win the $500
if its inconclusive after its all said and done, bet is off

book it?

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shut up and ban yourself from life

[Supwithbates]

I saw someone this bad run this good live before
Just raising every hand all along with like backdoor draws and hitting. Played like 90vpip and would build big pots then c/f river because he had absolutely nothing. Everyone was convinced he was somehow cheating, I think he had a live superuser acct pbv

[dragonystic]

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Dragon,

This guy was playing vs some of the best NL players on the net. It is not as easy as your so called "pwnage" at 10cent NL. \

Do you have any stats from your crazy sessions where you "pwned them for 200bb's/100 over 100's of hands"? We will be looking forward to your screenshots of this.

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i dunno how to put the pic in here correctly, but here is a link

PT 200bb/100

im not saying this proves anything, but there were some weird hands in there that i bet people thought were signs that i knew what the community cards would be or some other bs.

why is everyone on here so mean?

[ChrisV]

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if you are so darn sure why not make some money off it. $500 side bet with me?

if its proven they could see hole cards, you win the $500
if its proven they couldnt see hole cards, i win the $500
if its inconclusive after its all said and done, bet is off

book it?

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Unfortunately, you have on your side the operators of the site, who are going to be trying like hell to suppress this. Plus, it's hard to imagine what would constitute proof for me that they couldn't see hole cards, it being very hard to prove a negative. Otherwise I'd book it.

[dragonystic]

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if you are so darn sure why not make some money off it. $500 side bet with me?

if its proven they could see hole cards, you win the $500
if its proven they couldnt see hole cards, i win the $500
if its inconclusive after its all said and done, bet is off

book it?

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Unfortunately, you have on your side the operators of the site, who are going to be trying like hell to suppress this. Plus, it's hard to imagine what would constitute proof for me that they couldn't see hole cards, it being very hard to prove a negative. Otherwise I'd book it.

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thats true. and i realized that, which is why i made the contingency for if nothing is proven one way or the other.

in any case...if these guys won for weeks and weeks, then all of a sudden lost when this came out, the HH's should be out there. combine databases and get more than 500 hands together. then see where we are at.

[ChrisV]

dragonystic,

It's not the fact that he won so much that's weird, it's the style in which he did it. Note for instance that your river AF is 1.75, nowhere near his gigantic numbers.