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Old 07-13-2007, 12:05 AM
rtc89 rtc89 is offline
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Default 100/200NL live 2-pair hand

100/200NL ... Jamie Gold is two to my left. I open raise to 700 in mp with 96hh, I have about 22K behind me. I have played a variety of hands and shown down some big hands that I played staightforward and made some laydowns to big re-raises. I was not opening a lot of pots relative to the table. Jamie is sitting on 30K. Jamie calls and one other player who has me covered calls.

The flop comes As 9s 6c.

I check, Jamie fires 1500 (which he does about every other hand) and the blind re-pops to 5500.

What is the best line from here? Is leading out better on the flop? Is bottom two-pair strong here vs a Jamie Gold raise and a re-raise with me behind?
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Old 07-13-2007, 12:42 AM
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ai

if the flop was rainbow maybe fold i dunno
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Old 07-13-2007, 12:50 AM
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ai, fist pump, suckout, hang head, rebuy
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Old 07-13-2007, 01:13 AM
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Default Re: 100/200NL live 2-pair hand

all in, quite likely champ has air blind may have some A9, A6, 99 66 set hand, but can easily think he's protecting A-Big or maybe KJss type hand.
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Old 07-13-2007, 01:36 AM
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if you're raising 96s in MP, you've got to get it in here.
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Old 07-13-2007, 09:22 AM
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Default Re: 100/200NL live 2-pair hand

So, what about the line?

Is it every wise to raise pf with 96hh? Can bottom two ever get a call from an AK or 78 who thinks I am pushing thin? If I push here and only get a call from A6 and better

it is probably not profitable if I push out AK and worse and get called only by A9, A6, 66, 99 then I am dead to rights every time I get a call (equity vs range is about 6%) then he has to be making this play 75% of the time with hands weaker than two pair, e.g., 78, AK, AQ, etc. Seems kind of marginal to push.
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Old 07-13-2007, 10:14 AM
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Default Re: 100/200NL live 2-pair hand

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So, what about the line?

Is it every wise to raise pf with 96hh? Can bottom two ever get a call from an AK or 78 who thinks I am pushing thin? If I push here and only get a call from A6 and better

it is probably not profitable if I push out AK and worse and get called only by A9, A6, 66, 99 then I am dead to rights every time I get a call (equity vs range is about 6%) then he has to be making this play 75% of the time with hands weaker than two pair, e.g., 78, AK, AQ, etc. Seems kind of marginal to push.

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just stfu and push.
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Old 07-13-2007, 10:44 AM
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if you're raising 96s in MP, you've got to get it in here.

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not true at all, but get it in OP
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Old 07-13-2007, 12:38 PM
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So, what about the line?

Is it every wise to raise pf with 96hh? Can bottom two ever get a call from an AK or 78 who thinks I am pushing thin? If I push here and only get a call from A6 and better

it is probably not profitable if I push out AK and worse and get called only by A9, A6, 66, 99 then I am dead to rights every time I get a call (equity vs range is about 6%) then he has to be making this play 75% of the time with hands weaker than two pair, e.g., 78, AK, AQ, etc. Seems kind of marginal to push.

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lol @ not including a single draw.
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Old 07-13-2007, 01:35 PM
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if you're raising 96s in MP, you've got to get it in here.

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I [censored] HATE it when people post stupid garbage like this. No, you don't have to do dick unless you strongly feel like you have the best hand and given the action, that won't be true nearly every time, so nothing says you have to go broke here. If you have never even played this high - short-stacking doesn't count - then save your worthless one-liners for SSNL where they might give a [censored].

But given that you checked the flop (which I don't like since bottom two is too vulnerable of a hand to slowplay) and the raiser is probably playing vs Jaime having discounted you (you didn't provide any reads on the other guy, btw, and that can make a big difference), I can see shoving there, but I would not be happy about it. If the other guy is not overly aggro and on the tighter side, I might actually find a fold, much as I would hate it.

Kirk
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