6 max and shorter win rates

Buffsta8 · #1 12-01-2006, 03:31 AM

I know most people are fairly cagey about this but if anyone could post or pm with what they think are good/great/world class win rates i'd very much like to know

Also I looked for similar threads but didn't find anything on it if there is a thread on this can someone link me to it [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I'm more than willing to post my own winrate but I didn't want it to degenerate into a brag thread or people making fun of me [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] (whichever was more appropriate)

Entity · #2 12-01-2006, 03:37 AM

What limits are you talking about? I'm guessing primarily 25/50 - 150/300? From what I remember of you, you wouldn't need to worry about people making fun of you for a bad winrate.

I don't know that you'll get a lot of great responses in this thread, though.

Rob

Buffsta8 · #3 12-01-2006, 05:02 AM

Any Really [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] I have small sample sizes from limits as small as 3/6 but predominantly I was looking at good winrates for limits of 10/20 and up. The win rate thing was just because I didn't want people to think this was a thinly veiled brag where I revealed my winrate and said "haha i'm soo good" I just wanted to know what very good mid limit players were making ./100

antifish225 · #4 12-01-2006, 09:24 AM

Well I am not 'very good' or world class by any stretch of the imagination.......my w/r over my last 230K hands (some 5/10, lots of 10/20, some higher) is 1.2BB - like I said far from world class (and this is all 6-max, mainly 4-6 players - I do not play heads up) - AF

skilled · #5 12-13-2006, 12:45 AM

IMHO
pretty good to good = 1bb/100 to 1.5 bb/100 in 20/40 to 50/100

good to great = 1.5bb/100 to 2bb/100 in 20/40 to 50/100

Worldclass superstar = 2bb+/100.

This is as far as twoplustwoers are concerned. Obviously if you are beating 20/40-50/100 for 1bb/100 you are a great player, just not amongst other twoplustwo high limit players.

BTW, if you run at 2bb+/100 over 100k hands at those limits in the last twelve months... I want lessons lol.

PartyGirlUK · #6 12-13-2006, 01:31 AM

1 is good, 2 is very good, 3 is exceptional.

Edit: that applies to the 10-20 to 20-40 type limits.

Buffsta8 · #7 12-13-2006, 03:42 AM

Thanks Dean and Skilled I had a feeling that was about right. Obviously changes a bit for limits and amount of players in the game and how many tables you run but thats the sort of guideline figures I was thinking.

Big difference over 50/100 tho now as im a loser at those limits but have a near exceptional win rate at 25/50 and 30/60 *shrug*

skilled · #8 12-14-2006, 07:21 AM

if you really have a near exceptional win rate at 25/50, you shouldn't be losing at 50/100 if you played at your same mental level. If anything, its all mental/bankroll/game selection. Half the ppl that used to play 50/100 play anything between 30/60 100/200+ from what I saw.
That being said tho, don't make the jump to 50/100 if you don't really believe you can win there, and unless you have like 40k bankroll (and a strong mental game). even thats pushing it, because swings of 30k can easily put most people on life tilt.

Buffsta8 · #9 12-14-2006, 08:16 AM

Skilled, I think I could be a reasonable winning player at higher limits but the jump on absolute from 25/50 to 75/150 is massive in terms of the skill of the players. My best winrates are at 3 and 4 handed and often at 25/50 I can isolate the weaker players in this sort of game without much repercussion from the other pretty good players. At higher (on absolute at least) this simply doesnt happen. Also I think my style is slightly weaker than a lot of the other 25/50 players but this yields a very high win rate at mid limits where I get played back at a lot less. Some of the players that im certain I have a much higher win rate than at 25/50 seem better suited to be able to deal with this higher degree of aggression that the upper limits possess. That said with proper game selection I am fairly sure I could turn a 1bb/100 at 50/100.

silencio · #10 12-14-2006, 12:26 PM

Buffsta, you are a very good player IMO but I'll recommend not jumping to any conclusions unless you have a really massive sample size. Especially at AP. I always seem to upper the limit to what a good sample size is. Right now, I think even 50k hands are simply not enough since your true winrate can easily fluctuate -+1.5/100 when you reach 100k.

I haven't been playing poker for long but it seems that every 6 months the consensus of what is a relatively decent win rate drops .5/100 Which sadly does reflect that actual changing nature of the games.