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Old 11-07-2007, 09:07 AM
RockRattler RockRattler is offline
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Default Re: JJ overpair to board against semi lag player

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i think u forgot to put qq, kk, aa in stove there.

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I don't he has AA but here you go.

<font class="small">Code:</font><hr /><pre> Board: 5d 3c 2c
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 53.018% 51.69% 01.33% 23540 604.50 { JdJh }
Hand 1: 46.982% 45.65% 01.33% 20791 604.50 { QQ+, TT-77, AcKc, AcQc, 7c6c, 6c5c }
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Old 11-07-2007, 09:10 AM
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Default Re: JJ overpair to board against semi lag player

thanks a lot.
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Old 11-07-2007, 09:10 AM
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Default Re: JJ overpair to board against semi lag player

A pot sized bet screams to me Axcc as if he's trying to make sure he is priced in to chase. A solid player isn't going to make that big a bet with a lower pp than our JJ imo. I also think he bets for value with QQ-AA.
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Old 11-07-2007, 01:48 PM
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Default Re: JJ overpair to board against semi lag player

If I call preflop I'm probably looking to stack off here, so I'm not folding on the flop
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Old 11-07-2007, 01:51 PM
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Default Re: JJ overpair to board against semi lag player

lol @ folding to a flop bet.


flop is a pretty std call
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Old 11-07-2007, 02:10 PM
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Default Re: JJ overpair to board against semi lag player

if i am calling PF, i am felting this every time.

it is hard to say without reads about his 3betting tendancies, but i am pretty sure i am going broke in this spot
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Old 11-07-2007, 02:13 PM
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Default Re: JJ overpair to board against semi lag player

it looks to me like he has an ace in his hand. he is never doing this with AA imo, because he has a complete crusher. i believe he is pricing himself here with something like AK, maybe w/o suits
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Old 11-07-2007, 02:21 PM
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Default Re: JJ overpair to board against semi lag player

When this thread was up earlier today I advocated a flop raise. Now your all saying call.

I still feel that a lot of his range would be FD with an A and combo draws. Wouldn't we like just to get our money in now?
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Old 11-07-2007, 02:51 PM
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i'd get it in on the flop, yes
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Old 11-07-2007, 03:13 PM
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Default Re: JJ overpair to board against semi lag player

I think you have to include AKo and AQo in his range as well. He is going to cbet here %100 with what ever he is holding. However, the most important thing I need here is reads on his pot sized cbet. Is this value or does he want you to go away? I think that I call flop and c/f turn
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