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#1
09-22-2007, 11:45 AM
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The old if I check I lose play...so why not bet
I hate checking only to lose and norm will fire a nice bet and take it down...good play or bad play or player specific?
Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter) SB: $95.45 Hero (BB): $47.05 UTG: $48.65 MP: $17.45 CO: $59.55 BTN: $22.60 Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players) 2 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $1.50</font>, BTN calls $1.50, SB folds, Hero calls $1.00 Flop: ($4.75) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players) Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $2.00</font>, BTN folds, Hero calls $2.00 Turn: ($8.75) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players) Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $3.50</font>, Hero calls $3.50 River: ($15.75) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players) <font color="red">Hero bets $10.00</font>, CO folds Pot Size: $25.75 ($0.75 Rake) 
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#2
09-22-2007, 11:51 AM
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Re: The old if I check I lose play...so why not bet
Title should be "I think I chased to float, but now I'm not sure I have the cajones to fire"
Your line = flush draw. Fold PF. Dont do this sorta stuff. You dont need to.
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#3
09-22-2007, 11:53 AM
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Re: The old if I check I lose play...so why not bet
But why fold KQ pre in a 6 max game?? I value that hand like AJ in fr is that not correct?
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#4
09-22-2007, 11:58 AM
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Re: The old if I check I lose play...so why not bet
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But why fold KQ pre in a 6 max game?? I value that hand like AJ in fr is that not correct? [/ QUOTE ] Im not really folding the hand im folding the position KQ is a fine holding, but its not the nuts, and its tough to play OOP in a multiway raised pot, and I dont even think it's a close decision.
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#5
09-22-2007, 12:57 PM
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Re: The old if I check I lose play...so why not bet
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[ QUOTE ] But why fold KQ pre in a 6 max game?? I value that hand like AJ in fr is that not correct? [/ QUOTE ] Im not really folding the hand im folding the position KQ is a fine holding, but its not the nuts, and its tough to play OOP in a multiway raised pot, and I dont even think it's a close decision. [/ QUOTE ] Actually, your cards matter very little here. I just read your long post too. You need to remember that your cards only matter if and when they get to showdown. Your position here is actually very strong. Yes, we will be playing a flop oop, but more on that in a second. If cutoff has a decent stealing range then he is folding most of his holdings if you 3-bet here. He is even more likely to fold to a reraise as the button has position on him if all 3 of you see a flop. Likewise, the button has already screamed out to you that he wants to see a flop with his cold call, most buttons are folding most of their range to a 3-bet here also. We have a hand that is easily folded if 4 bet. If we are called preflop then you can continuation bet most boards profitably.
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#6
09-22-2007, 01:06 PM
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Re: The old if I check I lose play...so why not bet
you're going to lose a lot of money over the long haul making these sort of plays on micro tables.
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#7
09-22-2007, 11:51 AM
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Re: The old if I check I lose play...so why not bet
reload before hand starts
PF i like 3betting to 7.50$ or so your hand is pretty good and this is a good time to raise and win it preflop fold on the flop you have king high and this is a bad flop for you
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#8
09-22-2007, 11:56 AM
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Re: The old if I check I lose play...so why not bet
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reload before hand starts PF i like 3betting to 7.50$ or so your hand is pretty good and this is a good time to raise and win it preflop fold on the flop you have king high and this is a bad flop for you [/ QUOTE ] Why are you advocating 3-betting a marginal holding OOP ?
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#9
09-22-2007, 12:01 PM
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Re: The old if I check I lose play...so why not bet
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[ QUOTE ] reload before hand starts PF i like 3betting to 7.50$ or so your hand is pretty good and this is a good time to raise and win it preflop fold on the flop you have king high and this is a bad flop for you [/ QUOTE ] Why are you advocating 3-betting a marginal holding OOP ? [/ QUOTE ] because your going to fold a lot of better AJ type hands. and if he's a semi solid player his late position range is so large, but his thre bet call range is much more narrow. he is going to be folding a lot of pp when he misses sets.
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#10
09-22-2007, 12:02 PM
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Re: The old if I check I lose play...so why not bet
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[ QUOTE ] reload before hand starts PF i like 3betting to 7.50$ or so your hand is pretty good and this is a good time to raise and win it preflop fold on the flop you have king high and this is a bad flop for you [/ QUOTE ] Why are you advocating 3-betting a marginal holding OOP ? [/ QUOTE ] its a good spot for it. Co opened, button cold called, lots of dead money in the pot and we are way ahead of their range
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