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Old 10-15-2007, 04:29 PM
jerryf1914 jerryf1914 is offline
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Default would you say a flush is no good here without a read?

Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $.10 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($9.55)
SB ($11.15)
BB ($5.10)
UTG ($3.78)
MP ($2.35)
CO ($5.22)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.10, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $0.10, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($0.40) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $0.1</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $0.45</font>, SB calls $0.45, BB folds, UTG folds.

Turn: ($1.40) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $1.4</font>, Hero calls $1.40.

River: ($4.20) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $2</font>, Hero calls $2.

Final Pot: $8.20

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has 8h 6h (flush, king high).
SB has As 6d (one pair, aces).
Outcome: Hero wins $8.20. </font>
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Old 10-15-2007, 04:37 PM
CyberianBull CyberianBull is offline
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Default Re: would you say a flush is no good here without a read?

You played this sc to get exactly the hand that you got. So make a commitment plan if you hit your flush, and the rest of the decisions are easier. I value-raise/shove this river quite a bit, because again, if I hit my flush, my chips are going in. If I am not committed to doing that, then I am not playing this hand and folding it pre-flop. Folding this flush is absolutely absurd here.
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Old 10-15-2007, 04:37 PM
PJo336 PJo336 is offline
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Default Re: would you say a flush is no good here without a read?

Why are u raising the flop and not preflop? Raise preflop to show strength then raise a tiny bit bigger on the flop, there are too many people in the hand.
Raise the turn. You dont want a 4th heart killing ur action/screwing you over.

FOR GOD SAKES PUSH THE RIVER. you cant play scared that he has a better flush, that happens so rarely and you are missing a perfect stacking spot. There is not even a full house possible


AND dont show results till some people have commented
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Old 10-15-2007, 04:40 PM
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Default Re: would you say a flush is no good here without a read?

You played the hand to hit your flush, then did. Get the rest of your chips in ASAP please before another heart kills your action and kills your hand.
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Old 10-15-2007, 04:42 PM
iheartponeez iheartponeez is offline
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Default Re: would you say a flush is no good here without a read?

If your SC's hit a flush, make a move. And if you start hitting major resistance THEN you can rethink, but in a lot of cases it's best to get it all in even with resistance and chalk up a better flush to bad luck.

Consider that since 5 hearts are already visible to you, the odds that he has 2 of the remaining hearts is significantly dropped.

Edit: "you're" = "your" because you aren't the suited connectors themselves.
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Old 10-15-2007, 04:44 PM
Lego05 Lego05 is offline
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Default Re: would you say a flush is no good here without a read?

I probably fold pre-flop due to UTG's stack size and the BB only has 50BB's as well. If everyone had 100BB's or nearer it I prefer raising pre-flop though limping is somewhat alright I guess....would be better with 2 limpers ahead of you.


Why are you raising the flop? Just call and draw. Too many people there to raise.

On the turn I like a raise especially after you raised the flop...the flush is kinda disguised.

Shove the river.



You could conceivably just call the turn, pray the river isn't a heart, then shove over his river bet. But if you're pretty sure he'll bet river this may be good cause it can disguise your flush a little more and he may feel more committe to the pot after betting the river.
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