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Old 11-19-2007, 04:27 PM
TrueBritt TrueBritt is offline
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Default Bellagio 10-20: Overpair on Monotone Flop

I have 6k in middle position.
Villain is Sasha, a loose, tricky Canadian player. He is on the button and covers.

I raise to 60 with Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
Sasha calls
3 other callers.

Flop: (300) 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

It's checked around to me.
I check, for fear of a flush.
Sasha bets 260
It's folded around to me.
I call, thinking he is probably on a steal.

Turn: (820) 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

I check
He bets 600
I call

River: (2020) 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
He bets 1500
I fold.
If it hadn't come a heart, I would have called.

Preflop, I only raised to 60 because a third of the time an overcard is going to come on the flop, and I want several people seeing the flop with me so that I minimize my investment while maximizing my equity and pot size. I'm deep-stacked, and what I'm ultimately hoping for is for someone else to hit their hand when I hit mine harder. Do you think this is a high-expectation approach?

On the flop, would you bet the pot with 4 people in with you?
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Old 11-19-2007, 04:39 PM
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Default Re: Bellagio 10-20: Overpair on Monotone Flop

open fold
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Old 11-19-2007, 04:47 PM
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Default Re: Bellagio 10-20: Overpair on Monotone Flop

level? eesh
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Old 11-19-2007, 04:49 PM
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Default Re: Bellagio 10-20: Overpair on Monotone Flop

I have book a ton of hours with Sasha.

This is his classic line from position. Either c/r the flop or c/r the turn. I would c/r the turn more times than the flop with him. If he has any respect for your game at all he will fold his A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]x or K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]x.

BTW, he reads this forum but I dont think he posts.
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Old 11-19-2007, 04:57 PM
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Default Re: Bellagio 10-20: Overpair on Monotone Flop

You have to at the very LEAST bet the flop,or c/r the flop or turn with your overpair?

IMO..You wasted $860 on two streets by just c/c'ing
w/o ever finding out where you stand.And its done by player in position on the BT,that you read as stealing in the FIRST place?

[img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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Old 11-19-2007, 04:58 PM
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Default Re: Bellagio 10-20: Overpair on Monotone Flop

I would advice just limping hoping to hit set-over-set.
I would also fold flop because what else is betting than a flush. We checked for information to see if anyone would bet (if anyone has a flush he is going to bet) and one guy told us he had it.
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Old 11-19-2007, 05:03 PM
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Default Re: Bellagio 10-20: Overpair on Monotone Flop

[ QUOTE ]
I would advice just limping hoping to hit set-over-set.
I would also fold flop because what else is betting than a flush. We checked for information to see if anyone would bet (if anyone has a flush he is going to bet) and one guy told us he had it.

[/ QUOTE ]

Just wow
[img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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Old 11-19-2007, 05:06 PM
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Default Re: Bellagio 10-20: Overpair on Monotone Flop

This is pretty bad all around and I can't remember the last time I saw that game running where people were routinely opening for $60. It's almost always $80 or more depending on stacks cause nobody folds for $60.
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Old 11-19-2007, 05:22 PM
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Default Re: Bellagio 10-20: Overpair on Monotone Flop

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I would advice just limping hoping to hit set-over-set.
I would also fold flop because what else is betting than a flush. We checked for information to see if anyone would bet (if anyone has a flush he is going to bet) and one guy told us he had it.

[/ QUOTE ]

Just wow
[img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

[/ QUOTE ]

you just got levelled hardcore
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