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Old 09-01-2007, 09:11 PM
TrueBritt TrueBritt is offline
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Default Venetian 5-10 Deep Set

Effective Stacks: 4600
No read on villain

MP raises to 50
I call in LP with 55
SB calls
BB calls

Flop: ($200) 457r
SB bets 80
BB calls
I raise to 540 with middle set
SB goes all in for andother 4k

Call? Fold?

I'd also like to hear from other deep-stack players as to whether I should smooth-call his initial bet for fear of the straight. Also, would your decision be different if there were 2 of a suit on the flop? What about 3 of a suit?
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Old 09-01-2007, 09:22 PM
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Default Re: Venetian 5-10 Deep Set

yes it makes a big diff. if there are 2 or 3 to a flush on the board.... With a 3 flush im not calling allin; and just smooth calling more often than raising on the flop. Also what kind of player is SB... ive seen live donks flip over something like 88 or some other ridicolous hand in this spot.
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Old 09-01-2007, 09:32 PM
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Default Re: Venetian 5-10 Deep Set

My only read is that he seems fairly solid. I'm putting him on at least 2 pair.

Also, he's asian, and he's sitting on about 9k. I figure he's probably a pro, but he could also just be a big gambler.
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Old 09-01-2007, 09:59 PM
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Default Re: Venetian 5-10 Deep Set

i call this all day and im going to be double fist pumping..if he seriously played 68 this retarded then buy him a beer
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Old 09-01-2007, 10:02 PM
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Default Re: Venetian 5-10 Deep Set

if its all one suit fold otherwise call
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Old 09-01-2007, 11:18 PM
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Default Re: Venetian 5-10 Deep Set

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if its all one suit fold otherwise call

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Do you raise his initial bet if the flop is rainbow or has two of a suit?

My question is whether I should play this more cautiously because we are so deep-stacked.
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Old 09-01-2007, 11:37 PM
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Default Re: Venetian 5-10 Deep Set

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if its all one suit fold otherwise call

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Do you raise his initial bet if the flop is rainbow or has two of a suit?

My question is whether I should play this more cautiously because we are so deep-stacked.

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the flop is somewhat coordinated even though its rain bow so a flat call is a death trap..if the flop was all scattered rainbow then a flat call is sexy..if its 2 of a suite on the flop then obv raise..i usually only fold sets if i have a very strong read and this doesn't sound like that occasion
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Old 09-01-2007, 11:44 PM
Teh1337zor Teh1337zor is offline
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Default Re: Venetian 5-10 Deep Set

callll

run it twice when behind obv
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Old 09-01-2007, 11:55 PM
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Default Re: Venetian 5-10 Deep Set

this is an easy call. 44 is legit decision but a call. 63 is a quasi decision but a solid call. anything else is a fold.
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Old 09-02-2007, 12:01 AM
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Default Re: Venetian 5-10 Deep Set

looks like a fold
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