this line ok?

Str8Fish · #1 05-17-2006, 10:09 AM

Villain is 23/9/1.6 over 200 hands.

Party Poker 2.00/4.00 Hold'em (10 handed) link

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
2 folds, MP2 raises, 4 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets, Hero raises...

3-bet and I call, fold ui on the turn. If he calls, I pump it again on the turn, fold to a raise if no heart or 6.

Standard or stupid?

car ramrod · #2 05-17-2006, 10:16 AM

I would just call the flop

edit: to add reasoning. If he doesnt have an A he may get away from his hand. If he does have an A you are in trouble. Either way, I think calling is the best option.

jaxUp · #3 05-17-2006, 10:16 AM

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Villain is 23/9/1.6 over 200 hands.

Party Poker 2.00/4.00 Hold'em (10 handed) link

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
2 folds, MP2 raises, 4 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets, Hero raises...

3-bet and I call, fold ui on the turn. If he calls, I pump it again on the turn, fold to a raise if no heart or 6.

Standard or stupid?

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This is okay. Why do you feel this line is superior to WA/WB, or why do you feel this is not WA/WB?

Mustafa · #4 05-17-2006, 10:16 AM

I leak but I like seeing the turn at the very least, and I probably call down. Lots of people get more aggressive with KK or QQ when an ace falls because they want to make you drop it especially since you didn't raise PF they figure you're vulnerable.

lautzutao · #5 05-17-2006, 10:16 AM

Given how tight he is preflop I don't like it. If he calls this raise he's got Ace-biggerkicker or better. He's more than likely raising you here or on the turn. I'm probably just calling like the weak-tight player I am.

jaxUp · #6 05-17-2006, 10:20 AM

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I would just call the flop

edit: to add reasoning. If he doesnt have an A he may get away from his hand. If he does have an A you are in trouble. Either way, I think calling is the best option.

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my thoughts as well.

Ampelmann · #7 05-17-2006, 10:24 AM

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I would just call the flop

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Does this mean you'd simply call him down?

car ramrod · #8 05-17-2006, 10:30 AM

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Does this mean you'd simply call him down?

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yes, although sometimes I donk the river. Just depends, sometimes I base it on how long he pauses before he bets the turn.

If he has KK, QQ, or JJ then he is going to check thru the river, so that is why I like a donk on the river. The real question is whether to call or fold if he raises. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

bozlax · #9 05-17-2006, 10:34 AM

Pretty classic WA/WB, fish. Why mess with it?

Str8Fish · #10 05-17-2006, 10:36 AM

Villain... 99+, AT+, KQ, QJs
99-KK(30 combinations)
AT-AK(32)
KQ(16)
QJs(4)
AA(1)

So ahead of 50, behind 33. I don't think it's WA/WB.