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Old 11-27-2007, 09:04 PM
Fiasco Fiasco is offline
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Default $16 QQ vs weid moves at low blinds

Early on so no reads. This whole hand felt super akward. Not sure what to do abou the small 4 bet, or the tiny bet on the turn.

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t1530)
UTG+1 (t1480)
Hero (t1490)
MP2 (t440)
MP3 (t2540)
CO (t1540)
Button (t1470)
SB (t1480)
BB (t1530)

Preflop: Hero is in MP1 with Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG raises to t60, UTG+1 folds, Hero raises to t200, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB raises to t380, UTG folds, Hero calls t180

Flop: (t850) 2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (t850) 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets t60, Hero calls t60

River: (t970) 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t300, BB calls t300
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Old 11-27-2007, 09:07 PM
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Default Re: $16 QQ vs weid moves at low blinds

Um, I'd try and get it in on the flop or turn. His min3betting (=donk) and checking the flop is a really wierd line. I'd expect to see AQ+ here alot more than JJ+.
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Old 11-27-2007, 09:07 PM
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Default Re: $16 QQ vs weid moves at low blinds

I kinda like it, I will not threebet any UTG raiser though, but I'm sure UTG was pretty bad.

I probably bet flop (and puke when he check/minraises me).
As played on the flop, I call the turn, aiming to call just about any river (save A or K, usually).

I do like your small river bet.
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Old 11-27-2007, 09:10 PM
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Default Re: $16 QQ vs weid moves at low blinds

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Um, I'd try and get it in on the flop or turn. His min3betting (=donk) and checking the flop is a really wierd line. I'd expect to see AQ+ here alot more than JJ+.

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Ive been seeing a lot of threebet pf and crai on flop with AA and KK recently. I suppose I can just bet and if he shifts I might fold, but I dont like being in that position.

My feeling was that I wanted to get to showdown, but youre right, I think that AQ and AK are probably big parts of his range, so a flop bet could be in order.
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Old 11-28-2007, 10:41 AM
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Default Re: $16 QQ vs weid moves at low blinds

This is way too many hands to be not getting it in pf.
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Old 11-28-2007, 10:46 AM
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Default Re: $16 QQ vs weid moves at low blinds

Bet/get it in on flop.
Checking flop and calling turn gives up tons of value.
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Old 11-28-2007, 11:03 AM
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Default Re: $16 QQ vs weid moves at low blinds

is this a joke? CBet flop, no AK on turn shove. If he sneaks you with AA and KK fine, but having a PP under QQ is so common, even AK AQ AJ. Way too much value to play a small pot here. You will double up more often than not
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Old 11-28-2007, 11:04 AM
TruFloridaGator TruFloridaGator is offline
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Default Re: $16 QQ vs weid moves at low blinds

No, it's not a joke. No need for that.
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Old 11-28-2007, 11:04 AM
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Default Re: $16 QQ vs weid moves at low blinds

just get it in preflop unless you know they only 3bet with AA/KK
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Old 11-28-2007, 11:08 AM
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Default Re: $16 QQ vs weid moves at low blinds

Yeah, for some reason I didn't type that. Get it in PF, don't give flops to people with worse hands who aren't getting away pf, but might get away on bad flops.
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