***Official November Chat Thread: The Golden Duck***

m bozeman · #1 11-14-2007, 06:31 PM

O.K.

In the past, in that hand, i would have raised the turn to 35, they would have both folded, and I would have asked myself "what in the hell are you doing overplaying your hand, you practically had the nuts". It's easy to say after the results that I could have raised it more. To me, raising more on the turn is overplaying the hand, and losing value from my big hands. I can maybe see raising the turn to 25 or 30 max. , but no more that that.

Oh well, like my location says, I am constantly trying to dodge 1 and 2 outers at Stars. Standard.

Chargers In 07 · #2 11-14-2007, 06:36 PM

m bozeman, I can understand what you're saying but going to the river with $200 left to be bet in a $94 pot and a boat is pretty bad IMO which is the reason you raise more on the turn.

Renton · #3 11-14-2007, 06:38 PM

bozeman, you played that hand terribly, and your thoughts are way way off.

TheProdigy · #4 11-14-2007, 06:40 PM

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bozeman, you played that hand terribly, and your thoughts are way way off.

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QFMFT x200

mab812 · #5 11-14-2007, 06:53 PM

QFMFT ??? what does that mean?

mab812 · #6 11-14-2007, 07:01 PM

STARS 100 NL - how do i play this against Jonnybegoode

not a complete nit... is there anyway he folds this to a shove on the turn? Do i shove turn here? If it depends on the opponent...what type of opponent (stats wise) will 'likely' fold?

Seat 1: HERO ($103.50 in chips)
Seat 2: winnahr ($235.80 in chips)
Seat 3: Ratm2787 ($167 in chips)
Seat 4: imnxbmqb ($99.90 in chips)
Seat 5: superjoker00 ($29.80 in chips)
Seat 6: mtlspecial ($45.85 in chips)
Seat 7: Jonnybegoode ($143.90 in chips)
Seat 8: BankItDrew ($105.55 in chips)
Seat 9: Mr3157 ($116.25 in chips)
Ratm2787: posts small blind $0.50
imnxbmqb: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HERO [8h 8c]
superjoker00: folds
mtlspecial: folds
Jonnybegoode: raises $3 to $4
BankItDrew: folds
Mr3157: folds
HERO: calls $4
winnahr: folds
Ratm2787: folds
imnxbmqb: folds
*** FLOP *** [4d 3s 2s]
Jonnybegoode: bets $6
HERO: calls $6
*** TURN *** [4d 3s 2s] [2d]
Jonnybegoode: bets $17
HERO: folds
Jonnybegoode collected $20.45 from pot
Jonnybegoode: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $21.50 | Rake $1.05
Board [4d 3s 2s 2d]

TheProdigy · #7 11-14-2007, 07:01 PM

quoted for mother [censored] truth is what I mean when I say it

Chargers In 07 · #8 11-14-2007, 07:08 PM

Why do I even want to move up when people are this expert at the $50?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($50)
Button ($49.20)
SB ($33)
BB ($40.15)
UTG ($32.25)
UTG+1 ($49.50)
MP1 ($62.60)
Hero ($55.40)
MP3 ($50.10)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.50, UTG+1 raises to $2, MP1 calls $2, Hero raises to $9, 5 folds, UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 raises to $62.6, Hero calls $46.40 (All-In).

Flop: ($114.05) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: ($114.05) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($114.05) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $114.05

Results below:
MP1 has 2c 2d (two pair, threes and twos).
Hero has Ad Ac (two pair, aces and threes).
Outcome: Hero wins $114.05.

ship_it_trebek · #9 11-14-2007, 07:13 PM

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Why do I even want to move up when people are this expert at the $50?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($50)
Button ($49.20)
SB ($33)
BB ($40.15)
UTG ($32.25)
UTG+1 ($49.50)
MP1 ($62.60)
Hero ($55.40)
MP3 ($50.10)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.50, UTG+1 raises to $2, MP1 calls $2, Hero raises to $9, 5 folds, UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 raises to $62.6, Hero calls $46.40 (All-In).

Flop: ($114.05) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: ($114.05) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($114.05) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $114.05

Results below:
MP1 has 2c 2d (two pair, threes and twos).
Hero has Ad Ac (two pair, aces and threes).
Outcome: Hero wins $114.05.

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Wow how did the RNG not pick an A for that river.

bottomset · #10 11-14-2007, 07:14 PM

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Why do I even want to move up when people are this expert at the $50?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($50)
Button ($49.20)
SB ($33)
BB ($40.15)
UTG ($32.25)
UTG+1 ($49.50)
MP1 ($62.60)
Hero ($55.40)
MP3 ($50.10)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.50, UTG+1 raises to $2, MP1 calls $2, Hero raises to $9, 5 folds, UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 raises to $62.6, Hero calls $46.40 (All-In).

Flop: ($114.05) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: ($114.05) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($114.05) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $114.05

Results below:
MP1 has 2c 2d (two pair, threes and twos).
Hero has Ad Ac (two pair, aces and threes).
Outcome: Hero wins $114.05.

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funny thing was you blasted a guy for calling with KK in a spot like this