ok 3 somewhat similar rehove/allin call hands.......

[sheetsworld]

Assume no reads on anyone (lol but any attempt to convey a read will overly slant opinions, so assume all players are expert)



1.$50+$5 Hold'em No Limit - Level XII (600/1200) - 2007/08/08 - 20:19:02 (ET)

Table '57261705 22' 9-max Seat #6 is the button

Seat 1: shinerrr (68520 in chips)

Seat 2: alexromeo (15235 in chips)

Seat 3: luckybucky22 (13849 in chips)

Seat 4: sheets (6058 in chips)

Seat 5: castellimich (67175 in chips)

Seat 6: McShove (49292 in chips)

Seat 7: dominospizza (9821 in chips)

Seat 8: WGC1234 (30864 in chips)

shinerrr: posts the ante 125

alexromeo: posts the ante 125

luckybucky22: posts the ante 125

sheets: posts the ante 125

castellimich: posts the ante 125

McShove: posts the ante 125

dominospizza: posts the ante 125

WGC1234: posts the ante 125

dominospizza: posts small blind 600

WGC1234: posts big blind 1200

*** HOLE CARDS ***

sheets 77 (sry cut and paste messed up)
shinerrr: raises 2027 to 3227

alexromeo: folds

luckybucky22: folds

sheets:

2.similar tourney

Seat 1: sheets (27332 in chips)
Seat 2: cbrchutney (11915 in chips)
Seat 4: puffinmypurp (135760 in chips)
Seat 5: hohanchua (70985 in chips)
Seat 7: RunThisTable (27253 in chips)
Seat 8: McShove (87552 in chips)
Seat 9: apestyles (49041 in chips)
sheets: posts the ante 300
cbrchutney: posts the ante 300
puffinmypurp: posts the ante 300
hohanchua: posts the ante 300
RunThisTable: posts the ante 300
McShove: posts the ante 300
apestyles: posts the ante 300
puffinmypurp: posts small blind 1500
hohanchua: posts big blind 3000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to sheets [8c 8s]
RunThisTable: folds
McShove: folds
apestyles: raises 4553 to 7553
sheets

3. and same tourney as the 2nd one literally on the bubble

Seat 1: sheets (39732 in chips)
Seat 2: cbrchutney (24315 in chips)
Seat 3: CRossiter (18365 in chips)
Seat 4: puffinmypurp (80026 in chips)
Seat 5: hohanchua (73885 in chips)
Seat 8: McShove (28111 in chips)
Seat 9: apestyles (40685 in chips)
sheets: posts the ante 200
cbrchutney: posts the ante 200
CRossiter: posts the ante 200
puffinmypurp: posts the ante 200
hohanchua: posts the ante 200
McShove: posts the ante 200
apestyles: posts the ante 200
puffinmypurp: posts small blind 1000
hohanchua: posts big blind 2000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to sheets [7s 7d]
McShove: folds
apestyles: folds
sheets: raises 4000 to 6000
cbrchutney: folds
CRossiter: folds
puffinmypurp: raises 20000 to 26000
hohanchua: folds
sheets





The last hand has a little more to it as there are decisions on whther to open at all and for how much etc...Also the last hand we did have the belief that the shover was def capabale if bubble raping.




sheets

[mikeJ]

Hand 1: Fold. You're prob behind his opening range, and there's not enough dead money in pot to compensate. Not to mention, that if you get an open shove opportunity, your stack has some FE and you can win uncontested.

Hand 2: Ez Shove. I'd be very surprised if he was open folding 22 there.

Hand 3: It's def +cEV vs. puffin, but since it's on bubble, I dunno.

[djk123]

shove all 3.

[djk123]

[censored] nevermind misread your post

[Exitonly]

i shove the first two and fold 3rd i think

[sinderg]

amazed that anyone would fold the 1st one.

do people really think that utg have tight ranges in tornys still.

added also that this is better shove because the utg raise has a huge stack.

[shaundeeb]

1/2 easy shove 3 he really is a 3betting machine in the few to0urneys I played with him even when it isn't the bubble. I think it's -$EV to get our stack in there but I usually do it because if when we win we can now abuse the bubble and it will still be going on. This is actually a good spot to use the theries discussed in my 25o thread.

[A_PLUS]

First shove is an absolute must, regardless of reads, I think

Second, still pretty much just has to be a shove, regardless of reads

Third, against an unknown, probably a fold. But I do not know what to say about the initial open.

[mikeJ]

Nm, shove the first one.

[mikeJ]

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Seat 7: RunThisTable (27253 in chips)

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