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Old 09-03-2007, 12:13 PM
docnuclear docnuclear is offline
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Default Re: QQ preflop .. reraised allin

so any time we get 4 bet we should put villain on JJ/AK and push with QQ ? And we should be more worried when villains smooth call our 3 bets ?
WHat's ldo ?
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Old 09-03-2007, 12:25 PM
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I haven't folded QQ pre in 6-max in over 6 months and I can count on one hand the number of times I've gotten my money in bad.

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I assume you have played about 1000 hands.
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Old 09-03-2007, 12:57 PM
Aschweinsteiger Aschweinsteiger is offline
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Default Re: QQ preflop .. reraised allin

i wouldnt mind getting all in here with short stacked utg here. But sb would scare me off the QQ here.
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Old 09-03-2007, 01:25 PM
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Default Re: QQ preflop .. reraised allin

I fold.
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Old 09-03-2007, 01:34 PM
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Default Re: QQ preflop .. reraised allin

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so any time we get 4 bet we should put villain on JJ/AK and push with QQ ?

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I usually put them on AK and push with any pair.

Having said that the player being all in makes a big difference and he will often push big pairs in this spot. Still it's probably a call.
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Old 09-03-2007, 01:38 PM
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Default Re: QQ preflop .. reraised allin

I would fold this.
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Old 09-03-2007, 01:40 PM
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I haven't folded QQ pre in 6-max in over 6 months and I can count on one hand the number of times I've gotten my money in bad.

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In that case, congratulations on either:

<ul type="square">[*]running hotter than the sun[*]having a life and not playing much poker [/list]
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Old 09-03-2007, 04:52 PM
Noam Chomsky Noam Chomsky is offline
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I haven't folded QQ pre in 6-max in over 6 months and I can count on one hand the number of times I've gotten my money in bad.

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You mean you've been less than 5 times against KK or AA all in pf in 6 max in 6 months ??
I actually have trouble believing you. Do you mean villains smooth call the 3 bet w KK AA and don't 4 bet maybe ??

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Yeah, this is probably part of it. Also, I smooth call 3-bets a lot pf in and out of position with QQ rather than four bet and look to get it in.

Also, this is over about 200k hands and I'm dead serious and 100% positive that it's less than 5 times that I've been in against a higher pair after being four or even five bet all in pf.
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Old 09-03-2007, 04:57 PM
Noam Chomsky Noam Chomsky is offline
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so any time we get 4 bet we should put villain on JJ/AK and push with QQ ?

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No, any time we get 4 bet we should draw up a realistic range of hands four our opponents which might include JJ and definitely includes AK and as such we should recognize that we have odds to call with the dead money in the pot.
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Old 09-04-2007, 02:50 AM
Gap23Razor Gap23Razor is offline
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Default Re: QQ preflop .. reraised allin

you mileage may vary, but i believe the David Sklansky Ed Miller No Limit hold em book addresses this situation in one sentence around page 167 or so...when facing two preflop raises from two different players go all in with AA or KK, fold everything else...if you have a specific read on your opponents go for it, but i would rather follow the advice both the of Grand Gugu &amp; Noted Authority...and besides, i forked out good $$$$ for their book... [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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