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Old 08-26-2007, 05:59 PM
Veron Veron is offline
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Default 200NL- AKo facing fancy line from TAG

Villain is kinda unknown to me, but I have stats!
He's 16/11/4 over 1k
There's no real history and I'm running like 22/18/4 so far...


BB ($483.17)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($230.20)</font>
MP ($450.30)
Button ($102.80)
<font color="#C00000">SB ($424.95)</font>

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls $7, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($18) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $12</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $24</font>, Hero calls $12.

Turn: ($66) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $41</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $111</font>, Hero ??

What do we make of this? I'll share my thoughts on the hand later on...

Thx
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Old 08-26-2007, 06:04 PM
Fletcher19 Fletcher19 is offline
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Default Re: 200NL- AKo facing fancy line from TAG

i think his range after his flop cr is pretty much air or a set (maybe Kxss)so i don't see much value in betting the turn

I just check most of the time and re-evaluate on the river
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Old 08-26-2007, 06:07 PM
Hosehound25 Hosehound25 is offline
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Default Re: 200NL- AKo facing fancy line from TAG

I think this is a set almost every time. It is a fancy and creative line, but the few times I have seen it or done it myself its with a set.
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Old 08-26-2007, 06:13 PM
Symbolic Symbolic is offline
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Default Re: 200NL- AKo facing fancy line from TAG

Very weird you don't see a double check-raise that often especially from a apparantly solid player. I guess I fold while scratching my head, since he is pretty tight.
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Old 08-26-2007, 06:22 PM
13_Xerxes 13_Xerxes is offline
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Default Re: 200NL- AKo facing fancy line from TAG

LoL, call, and bet the river when he checks and call the CRAI ?
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Old 08-26-2007, 06:30 PM
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Default Re: 200NL- AKo facing fancy line from TAG

I would be very surprised if Mr. FPS has anything but a set here.
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Old 08-26-2007, 06:31 PM
Nielsio Nielsio is offline
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Default Re: 200NL- AKo facing fancy line from TAG

You know villain is gonna be unhappy to be c/c the turn with a flushdraw. His stats doesn't make him look like a donkey to do that namely. So on the turn you can expect him to either c/r or c/f.

The check-minraise as a bluff seems too fishy for him.

The check-minraise with a draw seems kinda weird as well.

The check-minraise with a set seems bad as well because he gives a draw a very cheap price. On the other hand, getting funky with a set against a good player is possibly the only way of getting payed. Then again, how well does he know you? If you think he has stats on you as well then he might have it here.


Anyway,

I think he has you beat here. The reason is because I think many people will call bs on him and reraise the turn with AK which would be sick -EV for him if he indeed has a flushdraw.


For this reason I think a turn check is better and call virtually all rivercards.
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Old 08-27-2007, 10:21 AM
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Default Re: 200NL- AKo facing fancy line from TAG

Interesting point here is clearly the turn.

Once he checked the turn after the flop check-raise I remember I literally said out loud '' LOL Flushdraw''

I mean what other hand would a solid looking TAG check/MinRaise - check with?
Assuming his hand was very transparant I didn't want to give him a free card so I bet. Given my read I should have made the bet smaller (like 36?) to make it more tempting for villain to call.
Also, the handrange I gave villain was too narrow, It's never only FD's but I still think you see them a majority of the time given villain's line so far.

When he C/R'ed again I was like WTF [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
I don't think I've seen a line like this from a 16/12 player before but after reviewing the hand I'm sure a fold is the right play since a set is way more likely than a FD now.
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Old 08-27-2007, 10:24 AM
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Default Re: 200NL- AKo facing fancy line from TAG

also we have A of spades
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