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Old 11-19-2007, 06:38 AM
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Default Re: SSNL [cheese] thread: NOV Pt 2 (nc)

the second hand is god awful shizzle, like every street is totally misplayed
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Old 11-19-2007, 06:42 AM
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wow this looks so amazing. I am thinking about getting a desktop with multiple monitors but I became more of a 6 tabler so it might be unneccessary.
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Old 11-19-2007, 06:49 AM
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the second hand is god awful shizzle, like every street is totally misplayed

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yea why? I was planning to check call 3 streets, but when 2pair came i figured first that he would at least check one street since he was kinda tricky. And that he would stack off with worse here considering how much was allready in the pot and my image (he was kinda coming after me alot).
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Old 11-19-2007, 06:52 AM
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3 bet preflop, c/r the flop, c/r the turn, do NOT c/r the river this deep. Basically, ya, I have no idea what your doing.
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Old 11-19-2007, 06:58 AM
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this reminds me, i still haven't gotten my two monitor setup to work. i've been too lazy to ask for real help [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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Old 11-19-2007, 07:06 AM
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How is this hand not standard vs a 70/40/3 mega drooler, (or im being levelled in BBV) because i was super happy to check raise this river at the moment. his flop turn and river AF was something like 7/4/4 . He overvalued his hands, and was overbetting most of the time.

Absolute Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $3/$6
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $620.45
UTG+1: $1162.30
CO: $882.55
Button: $1396.30
SB: $722
Hero: $1809.50

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to $30</font>, 3 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($63, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 bets $30</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($123, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 bets $156</font>, Hero calls.

River: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($435, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 bets $360</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $1440</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 calls all-in $586.3</font>.
Uncalled bets: $493.7 returned to Hero.

Results:
Final pot: $2327.6




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Carrot saying 3bet flop is usually right but its okay you didnt.

I see a lot of players lead the flop, and I kind of like that. Also checking-raising for value is the best line especially if he is a donk.

Worst street is river, I dont know why you would checkraise here. If you wanted to go for value, why not inflate the pot on earlier streets? Its to thin, and its almost more of a bluff then for value.
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Old 11-19-2007, 07:06 AM
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3 bet preflop, c/r the flop, c/r the turn, do NOT c/r the river this deep. Basically, ya, I have no idea what your doing.

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why 3bet preflop? I usually love to see flops with these guys, and let them hand me the money postflop when my equity is better, i dont like to get it in preflop with like a 60/40 edge. Also if I CR raise the turn, your assuming he gets it in worse? so why wouldnt he get it in worse on the river then?

sorry for being an annoying tool on this hand but i just dont get it :P , usually if i butcher a hand i can see why but i fail to see it here.
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Old 11-19-2007, 07:12 AM
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Default Re: SSNL [cheese] thread: NOV Pt 2 (nc)

Shizzle- Your preflop and flop line are ultra conservative, especially given the opponent you described. Given that, your line just does not make any sense to me when you do a very thin river checkraise. So if you are going to checkraise this river for value you might as well have got more money in on the flop/turn.
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Old 11-19-2007, 07:20 AM
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Default Re: SSNL [cheese] thread: NOV Pt 2 (nc)

i think his check on the river tilts me more than anything

Party Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

BTN: $219.88
SB: $196
Hero (BB): $200
UTG: $91.10
MP: $50.38
CO: $160.55

CO posts $2
Pre-Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
UTG calls $2, MP folds, CO checks, <font color="red">BTN raises to $4</font>, SB folds, Hero calls $2, UTG calls $2, CO calls $2

Flop: ($17) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $6</font>, CO calls $6, BTN calls $6, <font color="red">Hero raises to $29</font>, 2 folds, BTN calls $23

Turn: ($87) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $54</font>, BTN calls $54

River: ($195) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

Results: $195 Pot ($3 Rake)
BTN showed J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (a flush, King high) and WON $192 (+$105 NET)
Hero showed T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (two pairs, Tens and Eights) and LOST (-$87 NET)
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Old 11-19-2007, 07:22 AM
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Default Re: SSNL [cheese] thread: NOV Pt 2 (nc)

52/13/5 guy to me:

nati40014: you stupid fk
nati40014: what did you think was going on
nati40014: call down with an ace because this site
is crooked
nati40014: just die idiot
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