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Old 01-02-2007, 07:11 AM
YKMM YKMM is offline
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Default PLO 100 - Spewy line in reraised pot against likely aces?

PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha High, $1.00 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($60)
Button ($111.75)
SB ($120.55)
BB ($78.45)
UTG ($26)
UTG+1 ($98.50)
MP1 ($21.45)
Hero ($90.50)
MP3 ($42.50)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $1.
UTG calls $1, UTG+1 calls $1, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $6.5</font>, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to $23</font>, Hero calls $16.50.

Flop: ($49.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets $47.05</font>, Hero ....

I have $67.50 left. I have been attempting to play laggy. UTG+1 is 15/10/1 in 20 hands and is most likely to have aces. With 4 nut outs to the straight and a bunch of two pair outs, enough to raise all-in? Fold preflop?
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Old 01-02-2007, 08:05 AM
TheRempel TheRempel is offline
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Default Re: PLO 100 - Spewy line in reraised pot against likely aces?

You have 13 outs assuming he has bare aces with no draw (and none of your outs) which would give you just over 51% equity. Most of the time you are going to be roughly 47% against a random AA hand. You have to put in your remaining stack of $67.50 to win $117.50 (current pot plus his call of the rest of your stack) so you only need 36% equity to make pushing neutral EV.

This kind of play is very high variance though. One of the ways I cope with people that love to limp reraise and/or overplay post flop is to almost never pot raise preflop. If you had raised to $3 here, he could only reraise to $13 or so and would allow you to play the pot more cheaply. If he is pretty tight postflop (when he's not able to autoshove his stack) you may get some fold equity if he fears you have KK.
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Old 01-02-2007, 12:50 PM
CrushinFelt CrushinFelt is offline
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Default Re: PLO 100 - Spewy line in reraised pot against likely aces?

Preflop against some random aces you are about 35/65, so preflop isn't terrible. I always make this call if this player is very aggressive postflop with his aces (pots even scary boards). This type of thing you just need to figure out your number of outs and make the approprate decision.

http://twodimes.net/poker/?g=o&amp;b=Ks+...%0AAh+Th+Kc+8s

against some random aces with none of your outs you are nearly 50% equity which is enough to call getting 2:1. This is all high variance but also a good way to build a stack if you think this player will fire out postflop regularly.
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Old 01-02-2007, 12:52 PM
Hattifnatt Hattifnatt is offline
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Default Re: PLO 100 - Spewy line in reraised pot against likely aces?

Preflop is close but ok, push flop.
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Old 01-02-2007, 12:59 PM
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Default Re: PLO 100 - Spewy line in reraised pot against likely aces?

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Preflop is close but ok, push flop.

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I never find a fold preflop here but I think I should. Flop is a clear push.
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Old 01-02-2007, 01:29 PM
Hattifnatt Hattifnatt is offline
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Default Re: PLO 100 - Spewy line in reraised pot against likely aces?

fwiw its a clear preflop call for me if we change the A to any other non-pairing card 5 and above.
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Old 01-02-2007, 04:05 PM
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Default Re: PLO 100 - Spewy line in reraised pot against likely aces?

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fwiw its a clear preflop call for me if we change the A to any other non-pairing card 5 and above.

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I'm trying to learn this game so could you explain please.
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Old 01-03-2007, 07:42 AM
Kala1928 Kala1928 is offline
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Default Re: PLO 100 - Spewy line in reraised pot against likely aces?

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fwiw its a clear preflop call for me if we change the A to any other non-pairing card 5 and above.

[/ QUOTE ]I'm trying to learn this game so could you explain please.

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An ace in our hand does not help our hand at all but actually just harms it when our opponent is holding two aces.
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Old 01-04-2007, 04:56 AM
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Default Re: PLO 100 - Spewy line in reraised pot against likely aces?

i'ts close call pf.

get all in on flop as played.
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Old 01-04-2007, 11:56 AM
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Default Re: PLO 100 - Spewy line in reraised pot against likely aces?

Results:

Opponent had naked aces with nothing extra. Opponent had just slightly over 50% equity. Turn/river cards were blank and my opponent won the pot.
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