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Old 10-07-2007, 10:52 AM
TheLemonShark TheLemonShark is offline
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Default NL50 Oesd

Villain is regular tag, do we have odds to call here?


Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($50)
UTG ($48.80)
MP ($40.15)
Hero ($222.35)
Button ($21.80)
SB ($50.30)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $1.75</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $1.75, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>.

Flop: ($4.25) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $3.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $11</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $50.55 (All-In)</font>, Hero folds?
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Old 10-07-2007, 10:56 AM
Tito Tito is offline
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Default Re: NL50 Oesd

I probably would have just floated his flop bet since we're in position. But I don't think this would be a good call unless you just like to gamble. JJ+, AKs are all in his range.
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Old 10-07-2007, 10:58 AM
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Default Re: NL50 Oesd

lol no you donīt...
just fold...
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Old 10-07-2007, 11:35 AM
Lego05 Lego05 is offline
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Default Re: NL50 Oesd

I just call flop bet vast majority of the time.


No you do not have odds to call as played.
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Old 10-07-2007, 11:36 AM
Nogatsira Nogatsira is offline
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Default Re: NL50 Oesd

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I just call flop bet vast majority of the time.


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Thats what we call playing weak/tight
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Old 10-07-2007, 11:36 AM
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Agreed. You have some nice implied odds if you hit your K or 8. I think this is just a call as we do not want to re-open betting if he has an overpair.If he has overs he may just very well check the turn and then we can take it away anyways.
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Old 10-07-2007, 11:37 AM
Lostit Lostit is offline
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No, this is a fold, the math is rather simple:

It will cost you $39 to win a $69 pot.
That means you need a 1.7 to 1 chance or better, or a 36% chance to win, in order to be profitable here.

You have two cards to come here, lets figure you have 8 outs(all 8's &amp; K's make a straight). The rules of 2 and 4 say with one card to come, 8 outs equals a 32% chance of getting there.

32% does not satisfy our 36% requirement. Muck the hand and tell him "nice Bet"
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Old 10-07-2007, 11:37 AM
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I just call flop bet vast majority of the time.


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Thats what we call playing weak/tight

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no, that would be playing good, no one folds anything but air on this flop, and you will do far better calling the flop and betting when they give up on the turn
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Old 10-07-2007, 11:47 AM
Lego05 Lego05 is offline
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I just call flop bet vast majority of the time.


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Thats what we call playing weak/tight

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Disagree. Floating with the OESD here seems much better than raising the flop.

I don't really understand why you would think it's weak/tight.
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Old 10-07-2007, 11:48 AM
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Wow, no way you can call this
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