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Old 09-05-2007, 07:03 PM
tvta tvta is offline
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Default Bad Turn Shove?

Villain is 36/19/1.6

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $45.20
CO: $16.55
Button: $8.25
SB: $55.60
Hero: $62.10

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $1.75</font>, CO folds, Button calls, SB folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $7.25</font>, UTG calls, Button calls.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($22, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $16.5</font>, UTG calls, <font color="#cc0000">Button calls all-in $1</font>.

Turn: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($56, 2 players + 1 all-in - Main pot: $25, Sidepot 1: $31)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero is all-in $38.35</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG calls all-in $21.45</font>.
Uncalled bets: $16.9 returned to Hero.

River: 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($98.9, 0 player + 3 all-in - Main pot: $25, Sidepot 1: $73.9)


Results:
Final pot: $98.9
<font color="#ffffff">Button showed 8s As</font>
<font color="#ffffff">Hero showed Ks Kc</font>
<font color="#ffffff">UTG showed Qc Ac</font>
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Old 09-05-2007, 07:04 PM
Spurious Spurious is offline
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Default Re: Bad Turn Shove?

i havent looked at the results (dont post them, you'll get worse comments)
i think it's standard
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Old 09-05-2007, 07:07 PM
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Default Re: Bad Turn Shove?

standard.
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Old 09-05-2007, 07:08 PM
Boredom Boredom is offline
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Default Re: Bad Turn Shove?

Looks fine to me. You can check flop if they are aggro sometimes too(and checkraise ai obv). This is very standard though.
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Old 09-05-2007, 07:17 PM
Nick C Nick C is offline
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Default Re: Bad Turn Shove?

It's fine. Very frequently you'll be ahead on the turn, often against a committed player who's drawing dead or damn close to it (since you hold the Kc).
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Old 09-05-2007, 07:21 PM
WarhammerIIC WarhammerIIC is offline
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Default Re: Bad Turn Shove?

When someone flat-calls a bet that big (relative to their stack) on that kind of flop, it's bad news. In my opinion, the only worse hand that will call you is AQo with the A clubs. I just can't see QQ-TT calling here, or just a lone A clubs, unless the guy is a total maniac.

That said, I'd probably do the same thing if I were in the hand. But looking at it outside of the hand, I don't see how you can be ahead.
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