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Old 08-22-2007, 09:56 PM
SHRINK SHRINK is offline
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http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/08/...ess/gamble.php

NEW YORK: With long blond hair reaching his shoulders and dozens of cloth bracelets peeking out from under his sleeves, Mark Mendel hardly conjures up the image of a typical lawyer.

But then there is nothing run-of-the-mill about the case that Mendel, a Texan who was born and reared in Southern California, has been waging against his own government before the World Trade Organization.

It is a clash that at once challenges Washington's attempt to prohibit online gambling while simultaneously testing the ability of the WTO to enforce its own standards.

The dispute stretches back to 2003, when Mendel, 51, first persuaded officials in Antigua and Barbuda, a tiny nation in the Caribbean with a population of about 70,000, to make a trade complaint against the United States, claiming that its ban against Americans' gambling over the Internet violated Antigua's rights as a member of the WTO....

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Old 08-23-2007, 12:23 AM
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Great article.

This country will pay a heavy price for its arrogance.

I'm sure the WTO has mixed feelings about this issue. On the one hand, they could go down in flames fighting an 800-lb gorilla, and looking like fools for defending a morally baseless activity. On the other hand, the tide may be turning, and the WTO could look like heroes to lesser economies everywhere -- sticking up for what's right, no matter what.

Either way, seems make or break for the WTO. It's just kind of odd that it's our issue.
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Old 08-23-2007, 12:55 AM
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Its a very similar article to what TheRegister ran, except it ommitted the part about the corrupt, incompetent cronies in the USTR and DOJ. They are still quoting Frist's ex-chief of staff, probably running up his royalties remuneration from Harrah's for trolling untrue sound bytes. I guess they don't take comments, but I was viewing on Firefox, and a lot of comment tabs don't show up for me.
I hope with the PPA turning over a new leaf, we hope, press relations will be paramount, and stopping reporters and editors from taking spoonfed information from goverment spokepeople.
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Old 08-23-2007, 01:52 AM
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More than a few people in Washington initially dismissed as absurd the idea that the trade organization could claim jurisdiction over something as basic as a country's own policies toward gambling. Various states and the federal government, after all, have been deeply engaged for decades in where and when to allow casinos, Indian gambling halls, race tracks, lotteries and the like to operate.

But a WTO panel ruled against the United States in 2004, and an appellate body upheld that decision one year later. In March, the organization upheld that ruling for a second time and declared Washington out of compliance with its rules. That has placed the United States in a quandary, said John Jackson, a professor at Georgetown University Law Center who specializes in international trade law.

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these two paragraphs suck.

they left out the part about why the WTO ruled as they did. it's sort of in there later but people will form an impression (that the case is "absurd"), especially since this comes early in the story.
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Old 08-23-2007, 03:06 AM
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More than a few people in Washington initially dismissed as absurd the idea that the trade organization could claim jurisdiction over something as basic as a country's own policies toward gambling. Various states and the federal government, after all, have been deeply engaged for decades in where and when to allow casinos, Indian gambling halls, race tracks, lotteries and the like to operate.

But a WTO panel ruled against the United States in 2004, and an appellate body upheld that decision one year later. In March, the organization upheld that ruling for a second time and declared Washington out of compliance with its rules. That has placed the United States in a quandary, said John Jackson, a professor at Georgetown University Law Center who specializes in international trade law.

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these two paragraphs suck.

they left out the part about why the WTO ruled as they did. it's sort of in there later but people will form an impression (that the case is "absurd"), especially since this comes early in the story.

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That is one reason why it gets so little coverage. I was talking to a guy who teaches an MBA course and he barely understood the whole process. The NYTimes doesn't have the best business talent going. Nor does USAToday. Ive written
WSJ, The Economist(and FT), and Bloomberg asking for some better coverage, but no results yet. Im the most disappointed in the lack of coverage from The Economist as they have the qualified staff to research it well, and they covered UIGEA favorably for us.
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Old 08-23-2007, 04:57 AM
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i haven't read the threads on this forum that debate the longterm usefulness of the antigua lawsuit, because quite frankly, it exhausts me to read about pipe dreams that i desperately want to come true. but i did read this article. in a non-concise way i thought it laid out why i agree with those who argue this lawsuit won't make the united states budge one bit. i hope i'm wrong.
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Old 08-23-2007, 04:41 PM
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i haven't read the threads on this forum that debate the longterm usefulness of the antigua lawsuit, because quite frankly, it exhausts me to read about pipe dreams that i desperately want to come true. but i did read this article. in a non-concise way i thought it laid out why i agree with those who argue this lawsuit won't make the united states budge one bit. i hope i'm wrong.

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When the US is forced to pay BILLIONS or make trade concession worth BILLIONS or withdraw from the WTO unilaterally (thus losing TRILLIONS), something will have to give in Washington. Your pessimism is misplaced.

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Old 08-23-2007, 05:37 PM
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"dozens of cloth bracelets peeking out from under his sleeves"

Say, what ?

Is Mendel an Orthodox Jew or a Mormon ?
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Old 08-23-2007, 05:38 PM
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Try the Wall Street Journal article.
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Old 08-23-2007, 11:28 PM
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Try the Wall Street Journal article.

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You need a subscription (or trial subscription).

Can somebody post the article?

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