30NL - 6max - JJ deep

[Ryba]

i'm 24/17/2, villain seems decent 26/17/3. This is either a set or hearts right? Play it different? check flop? bet less? Such a meh spot.

Full Tilt Poker, $0.15/$0.30 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

BTN: $31
SB: $59.70
Hero (BB): $66.80
UTG: $44.85
MP: $71.70
CO: $147.80

Pre-Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
UTG folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $1.05</font>, 2 folds, SB calls $0.90, <font color="red">Hero raises to $4.20</font>, MP calls $3.15, SB calls $3.15

Flop: ($12.60) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $10</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $55.50 and is All-In</font>, MP folds, Hero ?

[MaltbyStu]

There's no reason not to bet out on the flop having raised PF. If this guy was extremely LAG I can find a call here but I don't reckon you beat much that c/rAI here. Even if he does this with AKh he's ahead.

[BevillTheDevil]

id probably make the pf 3bet a little larger to like 5ish. I guess MP checked behind and SB minraised?? either way this looks like a fold to me. Really what do you beat here?? 99/TT is about it and i dont think he takes this line w/ those hands. But you have to beat this flop (and i like the size) given how drawy it is and you cant take a free card w/ JJ, wayy too many bad cards that can hit the turn.

[john voight]

easy fold vs almost anyone IMO
I would only call vs a maniac

[toddxlogan]

Fold.

At best you are against AKh/AQh, and often you are slaughtered. I guess megalag could do this with 99/TT but thats pretty rare and the rest of his range has you in nasty shape (44/77/88/QQ/AKh/weirdly played QQ-AA).

[Woody317]

This is why i hate jacks. The only thing i'd say is that i don't think there's any point in 3-betting preflop this deep. Because of stack sizes, he's gonna get huge implied odds with most of his betting range and i don't wanna play for stacks with just JJ.

After the 3-bet you played it well but definitely fold here.

[bozzer]

pretty obvious fold on the flop. the question is more the sqeeze pre. if SB hadn't called I wouldn't have rr (depending on MP) too, but I guess with SB in the hand it makes sense to rr?

[traz]

mehh I call here probably. His hand doesn't really look like a monster with the exception of a set, and that's a really narrow range. He could be getting jiggy with some kind of draw or pair + gs or god knows. Even with a tight range a call is still ok.

Board: 4c 7h 8h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 58.270% 57.50% 00.77% 9108 122.00 { TT, 88-77, 44, AhKh }
Hand 1: 41.730% 40.96% 00.77% 6488 122.00 { JdJs }

[Ryba]

in the hand decided didnt wanna flip for 60$ so i folded he said he had KJh, its a very marginal spot, but for 100bbs it goes in without a 2nd thought