deepstack river spot

4080deepstack effective stacks pretty damn big villian is hcdbtt(sp?) who is tough laggy opponent who likes to put pressure

4080 blinds
I raise T7hh in cutoff to 280, he makes it 1k on button, blinds fold I call

J T 7 flop with flushdraw
I bet 1350 he calls

turn is a brick
I bet 3650 he calls

river A doesn't bring flush draw
(12k)
I bet 6500 he shoves for ~22k more

hes probably capable of bluffshoving here with worse hand since my bet looks like exactly what it is but its such a gamble to call the shove. anyone think checkcall is better here? my thoughts on the river bet was that i was getting maxvalue from Jx, QQ, KK hands

[Actual God]

Seems like a definite fold to me, but I may be bad at poker.

[ActionJeff]

I think check call is much better, and you have to fold now (obv).

check-call up to a certain amount? i think if he throws out 10k on river i'm toast...

[fatgirl_lover]

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I think check call is much better, and you have to fold now (obv).

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[king_of_drafts]

I think the worst part of this is that there's no way you have KQ given the amount you bet on the river.

says who? I can and would bet KQ like that on the river

[fatgirl_lover]

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says who? I can and would bet KQ like that on the river

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i agree that's why you cant call

[DJ Sensei]

river bet amount definitely put you in this tough spot, but if i was gonna bet i can't think of a better amount to do.

so yea, check-call sounds better.

also i think you should fold this as played. it looks a hell of a lot like KQ, or perhaps AA. I dont think he'd shove much less than those for value, or turn them into bluffs, and i dont think he'd float twice with a hand that had to become a bluff on the river, so i think this is straight valuetown.

[Ansky]

fold obv